Managing Tooling Condition at Suppliers

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RosieA

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My company has a huge amount of tooling at supplier locations. Every 2 years we send a request to our suppliers who have tooling owned by us to confirm that they have the tooling and to tell us the condition of the tooling.

Currently we find out that a pattern or die is worn when we receive out of spec parts. The survey isn't a very effective way for us to manage our tooling.

Supplpiers are supposed to send us a Supplier Deviation request when their tooling becomes worn so we can allocate money to repair or replace them, but it often doesn't happen.

I'd like to hear from others about how they are managing their tooling at supplier locations. :thanks:
 
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My company has a huge amount of tooling at supplier locations. Every 2 years we send a request to our suppliers who have tooling owned by us to confirm that they have the tooling and to tell us the condition of the tooling.

Currently we find out that a pattern or die is worn when we receive out of spec parts. The survey isn't a very effective way for us to manage our tooling.

Supplpiers are supposed to send us a Supplier Deviation request when their tooling becomes worn so we can allocate money to repair or replace them, but it often doesn't happen.

I'd like to hear from others about how they are managing their tooling at supplier locations. :thanks:
I am sure you would do some sort of monitoring at an appropriate frequency if the tools were used at your site. Why not make your Supplier do the same thing and submit the monitoring report. I have no clue about the tool in question, but two years I think is probably too long a period for monitoring. One senior guy I know often comments that wide monitoring period is more of Plan-Do-Check-PRAY
 
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RosieA

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LOL! I like that.

We have 12 plants world-wide and our suppliers are world-wide also. So it's quite a chore even doing the reach out every 2 years, but I am leaning toward your suggestion on having a self-monitoring program in place. Thanks
 

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With a current Inspection frequency of 2yrs, I assume that these tools are used in batch processes.

If so, one option would be to have the customer provide a post-use tooling inspection with each shipment.
You can work together with each one to specify what about the tool should be inspected, and have it become part of the existing CoA rather than mandate yet another piece of paper.

If my assumption is wrong, and the tooling is in continuous use, you should be able to indirectly monitor tooling wear in the parts you receive if that is considered advantageous.
 
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Bjourne

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My company has mold toolings that are assigned by customer to be used for their specific process. Currently we do not have the monitoring scheme to use on the whole mold tool but just on the mold press parts like the plunger/plunger tip where they are measured with SPC to determine some deviations of wear. The mold toolings such as mold chases etc are just maintained by the schedule PM activities (cleaning etc) and when they wear down or get damaged, they are repaired or refurbished and later billed to the customer. Nothing more happens.

I also attempted to send an email to 3 tooling manufacturers about critical tooling control since they are the ones who better know what parts are critical and what maybe the best way to monitor them based on continuous usage and tool life but no one replied. I thought about that because I see the sales agents are only active when some new toolings are delivered for qualification but after they are "qualified" you'll never see them again. Imho the machine maker or tooling maker can provide some PM details that can be used for a method of control.

I think this is related to my other post here, http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=64770

A control plan and a machinery FMEA may suffice as a monitoring tool for such...

Maybe some tooling manufacturer can help here....
 
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skychan

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Hi, We manage die by the shoot times. the material and technology of die decide how long it would be worn,It is supplier bussines if shoot times under limited
 

mwohlg

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Hi, we have customer owned molds in our facility, and we used to only update customers on their status when the customer asked. They started asking every year and it forced us to do a better job of monitoring the tool wear and design life. Now, since we review every mold each year we can predict earlier when a tool will reach its design life cycle and request funding for refurbishment ahead of time.

I would take your 2-year form and let each supplier know that you will be expecting an annual update using the same form. It may turn out to be less work for you, if the same people get the same form and simply update their information from the last time.
 
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