Mistake proofing & problem solving methods

Kevin Mader

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#11
Good point Laura. Consistency reduces variation, which in turn reduces waste.

When possible, the groups should collaborate and create a suitable replacement together.

Regards,

Kevin
 
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Laura M

#12
And its good to point out the waste reduction to organizations that think the ISO/QS is a bunch of "wasted paper"!!!!!!!!!
 
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tim banic

#13
Thank you folks for your help, I enjoy the reading very much & the input & ideas are great. I check the board daily (3 or 4 times) just to see what the chat is about. Our goal date is mid Dec. so I will keep everyone up to speed on our progress. Thanks again

"If it moves train it...if it doesn't move calibrate it...if it isn't written down it never happened!"

tim banic
 
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Martijn TVM

#14
Well the best of luck tim of getting certified. I noticed we did drift away abit on the Mistake proving & problem solving methods, sorry about that.

To reply on waste of paper if I need to pursuade a company I just pull out the AIAG survey on benefits of implementing.

If those figures don't impress a management team, nothing will.

And once again It will not work if the employees don't accept the system.
 
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Paul Morrow

#15
Yeah I've read the survey (wheres 1999?)and financial benefits. Its tosh.
If a)we all need to get QS, and b) theres a global slump in automotive production,wheres the additional sales coming from? Are the AIAG really going to suggest QS is anything other than a huge sucess?
Whats it like in the real world? What about a quick survey of contributors, or has this already been done.
 

Marc

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#16
Originally posted by Paul Morrow:
If a)we all need to get QS, and b) theres a global slump in automotive production,wheres the additional sales coming from?
It's not a matter of additional sales or decreasing sales of vehicles. It's a matter of dog fighting over any available possible sales to the auto makers. If vehicle sales decrease and need for parts decreases the fight will just increase in ferocity. Competition forces the 'weak' suppliers out.

Originally posted by Laura M:
The only time it creates a bit of a difficulty is if 2 departments do things differently (both compliant), and in the process of implement a Quality System, you also want to become consistant. Then someone has to change and things get a bit more complicated.
It's nice to be 'consistent', however many times the client's systems are well established and work well without problems. It often makes as much or more sense to let them continue to do what they've been doing all along rather than insist that one or the other change.
 

Casana

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#17
Is Mistake Proofing the same as Poke-a-yoke? I'm trying to understand how to meet the QS requirement for 4.14.1.2 and would appreciate any guidance... I went to the website referenced above but it goes into detail of how to do poke-a-yoke ?!
How do I incorporate this into our CAR system? How have others met this requirement?
Thanks in advance for any comments.
 
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Rick Goodson

#18
Poka-yoke is Japanese for fool-proofing or mistake proofing. Look at Shigeo Shingo's book"Zero Quality COntrol: Source Inspection and the Poka-yoke System, ISBN 0-915299-07-0. It will make more sense then.
 
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DICKIE

#19
some of the problem solving method we use include Evolutionary operation of processes (EVOP), Overall equipment effectiveness, Theory of constraints, Design of Experiments, Value analysis/Value engineering, Bench marking, Brainstorming. Web serches using these keywords will yield tons of information.
 
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Dan Larsen

#20
I find this site useful in helping people get a better understanding of mistake-proofing (poke-yoke) in terms of things they use and see everyday:
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It's a bit of a slow loader, but the everyday examples of mistake-proofing seem to help people understand the concept.
 
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