SBS - The best value in QMS software

Monitoring of lead time - Good KPI identification?

Ed Panek

QA RA Small Med Dev Company
Trusted Information Resource
#11
Again Ill say, why do you want to measure what you want to measure? Why Why Why it to a root reason.
 
Elsmar Forum Sponsor

qualprod

Trusted Information Resource
#12
Sorry for my delayed answers

Ninja, My answers in italic

When you identify (very specifically) what you want that indicator to be, and how you will use it...you'll likely come up with a number of ideas yourself in addition to those possibles posed above.
I´ll explain it a little bit more....
One of my main purpose is to improve the delivery time of our products to customers, for this, I started like this.
First, I want to measure how many days we spend in production , so that with this reference in mind, will be used to compare how well I´m improving my delivery time over the time.
When I say over the time, is while I´m implementing actions for improvements, e.g. to train operators, to change/repair machines for better performance, to improve communication of work orders, the approval of some activities and so on.

That is my need to set an initial reference so that based on that, I can evaluate if delivery dates are being improved.
I´m sure that once actions are implemented and have good results, I´ll set a
more trustworthy kpi and this be set on the processes on certain periods of time.

My initial question was in this direction, how to define a good reference if my products are very different.
I have a great variety of products, additionally some take more days than others, the same product is required in different quantities, so
that is the problem, I considered as an option the Ninja´s idea (early/late method).
Hope I´ve explained it clear.
Thanks


Bev
Can you tell us what starts the clock and what ends the clock?
for example start = PO acceptance from Customer and end = receipt of product by Customer.
Yes, Agree
The how do you intend to evaluate the metric? control chart, looking at a table of results? how do you intend to share it with your company?
Who is responsible for making improvements to the metric? do they agree?
The metric is to be evaluated in a monthly basis by using a control chart, this will be shared to all processes,
I´m in charge of that (my position is operation engineer) and one of my main tasks is to look for improvements of the processes, I´m under
the top management, all my duties are approved by him, the rest of managers agree on this.
Thanks
 

Ninja

Looking for Reality
Staff member
Super Moderator
#13
It seems that there is a very simple desire being made very complicated.

You want to know lead time from the customer's point of view:
You outline your product realization process
- receive order
- enter order
- order given to production scheduling
- order scheduled
- .....and on and on until ...
- order ships

You choose only steps where you can get a date, or time and date.
You measure them for a while...say 50 orders over the next two months...or find a way to easily trap all of the data in useful form.
You now know current state.

While taking the above measurements, you also consider "what should it look like if all was perfect?"
You talk to the area owners (Order entry, scheduling, production, shipping, etc.) and come up with an ideal picture of steps and timing

Then you compare current state with ideal state
Then you decide which process(es) to speed up first...whether by simplifying, prioritizing, removing steps by automation, etc.

Then you measure it again and see if anything helped...

You can chart fixed items (order entry, hand-off to production, quality inspection, etc. in days or days early/late.
You can chart variable items (production time, packing time, etc.) in days early late, or % early/late.

This above is simple stuff, so I think I'm assuming your asking something more complex.
 

qualprod

Trusted Information Resource
#14
It seems that there is a very simple desire being made very complicated.

You want to know lead time from the customer's point of view:
You outline your product realization process
- receive order
- enter order
- order given to production scheduling
- order scheduled
- .....and on and on until ...
- order ships

You choose only steps where you can get a date, or time and date.
You measure them for a while...say 50 orders over the next two months...or find a way to easily trap all of the data in useful form.
You now know current state.

While taking the above measurements, you also consider "what should it look like if all was perfect?"
You talk to the area owners (Order entry, scheduling, production, shipping, etc.) and come up with an ideal picture of steps and timing

Then you compare current state with ideal state
Then you decide which process(es) to speed up first...whether by simplifying, prioritizing, removing steps by automation, etc.

Then you measure it again and see if anything helped...

You can chart fixed items (order entry, hand-off to production, quality inspection, etc. in days or days early/late.
You can chart variable items (production time, packing time, etc.) in days early late, or % early/late.

This above is simple stuff, so I think I'm assuming your asking something more complex.
Thanks Ninja.
I understand perfectly what you said, is what I'm doing now, you are right, Is not too easy.
My idea is to give the Director a representative general number of lead time in days which include monthly average days for all type of products.
But have determined that maybe will not give me good information of that.
What I have to do is to separate by same type of product, quantity, line of production, so that I have a more precise numbers, and finally to have as references several led times instead of having just one.
Til now, still continue looking for ideas of what to show the Director a reference to compare while changes are made.
Thanks
It seems that there is a very simple desire being made very complicated.

You want to know lead time from the customer's point of view:
You outline your product realization process
- receive order
- enter order
- order given to production scheduling
- order scheduled
- .....and on and on until ...
- order ships

You choose only steps where you can get a date, or time and date.
You measure them for a while...say 50 orders over the next two months...or find a way to easily trap all of the data in useful form.
You now know current state.

While taking the above measurements, you also consider "what should it look like if all was perfect?"
You talk to the area owners (Order entry, scheduling, production, shipping, etc.) and come up with an ideal picture of steps and timing

Then you compare current state with ideal state
Then you decide which process(es) to speed up first...whether by simplifying, prioritizing, removing steps by automation, etc.

Then you measure it again and see if anything helped...

You can chart fixed items (order entry, hand-off to production, quality inspection, etc. in days or days early/late.
You can chart variable items (production time, packing time, etc.) in days early late, or % early/late.

This above is simple stuff, so I think I'm assuming your asking something more complex.
I understand perfectly what you said, is what I'm doing now, you are right, Is not too easy.
My idea is to give the Director a representative general number of lead time in days which include monthly average days for all type of products.
But have determined that maybe will not give me good information of that.
What I have to do is to separate by same type of product, quantity, line of production, so that I have a more precise numbers, and finally to have as references several led times instead of having just one.
Til now, still continue looking for ideas of what to show the Director a reference to compare while changes are made.
Thanks
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
I QMS monitoring, measurement, analysis and evaluation requirement - Template ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 3
J Cleanroom Differential Pressure Monitoring, frequent manual observation US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 6
J Need a contract monitoring Tool General Information Resources 0
lanley liao Question regarding the calibration of monitoring and measure equipment. Oil and Gas Industry Standards and Regulations 0
K Monitoring the identified side-effects and contraindications ISO 14971 - Medical Device Risk Management 4
C ISO 14001:2015 6.1.3 Compliance Obligations - Legal requirements monitoring ISO 14001:2015 Specific Discussions 0
J Calibration cycle for monitoring & measuring tools used in medical device manufacturing General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 5
C Monitoring and Control Instruments RoHS, REACH, ELV, IMDS and Restricted Substances 3
E Insulation diagram for ECG monitoring and diagnosis system. IEC 60601 - Medical Electrical Equipment Safety Standards Series 1
A How to reduce the process SPC monitoring Capability, Accuracy and Stability - Processes, Machines, etc. 3
R Calibration lab environmental monitoring General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 4
S User evaluation for self monitoring blood glucose test systems US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 4
S HIPAA-compliant monitoring software (advice needed) Hospitals, Clinics & other Health Care Providers 1
P ISO Class 8 particle count (annual certification vs monitoring) ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 4
CPhelan Best metrics for monitoring low volume (<1000) parts per vendors Supply Chain Security Management Systems 1
B Bioburden monitoring for surgical instrument provided non-sterile EU Medical Device Regulations 3
A How to set up Continuous CpK monitoring of an injection mold process Reliability Analysis - Predictions, Testing and Standards 7
P IATF 16949 8.4.2.4 Supplier Monitoring IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 2
B Measuring and monitoring equipment - Understanding which procedures to be compliant with ISO 13485 ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 6
C ISO 9001:2015 Monitoring and measuring resources. Application a service industry ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 7
O Monitoring performance - How do I determine performance measurement basis within my organization? Misc. Quality Assurance and Business Systems Related Topics 4
D Monitoring and measuring resources - Example of how section ISO 9001 7.1.5 would apply to a manufacture of software ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 4
J Textiles needed for home monitoring device - any suggestions? Other Medical Device Related Standards 1
G Problem Resolution Report Monitoring - Customer complaint or PRR as general motors use Customer Complaints 12
E ISO 13485 7.6 Control of monitoring and measuring equipment - Assess the Validity ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 4
R ISO 13485 Software validation procedure and Quality Objectives Monitoring wanted Document Control Systems, Procedures, Forms and Templates 1
Q AS9120B - ESD monitoring devices part of 7.1.5 AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 7
Q AS9120 Vendor of ESD Monitoring Equipment needs to be in the Approved Supplier List? AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 8
J ISO 17025 - Please share a sample procedure for monitoring the validity of results ISO 17025 related Discussions 1
P IATF 16949 - Monitoring Suppliers for Premium Freight IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 12
qualprod ISO 9001 Clause 9.1 - Monitoring measurement analysis and evaluation ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 6
T ISO 13485 8.2.5. Monitoring and measurement of quality management system processes ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 1
A Records required for ISO 9001 clause 7.1.5.1 - Fitness for purpose of the monitoring and measurement resources ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 10
chris1price Cleanroom Monitoring Plan - ISO14644-2:2015 - Risk Assessment Other Medical Device Related Standards 3
dhuot1990 Issues with REES Environmental Monitoring System Manufacturing and Related Processes 1
M Informational USFDA draft guidance – A Risk-Based Approach to Monitoring of Clinical Investigations Questions and Answers Guidance for Industry Medical Device and FDA Regulations and Standards News 0
I FDA requirement for 0.5 and 5 micron particle monitoring US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 0
qualprod Complying with ISO 9001:2015 - 9.1.1 b - Monitoring, measuring, analyzing and evaluation ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 2
Marc New Posts and New Threads - Monitoring (aka "Watching") Elsmar Xenforo Forum Software Instructions and Help 1
L Monitoring transmitted data from a bluetooth medical product IEC 60601 - Medical Electrical Equipment Safety Standards Series 8
T How to plan the monitoring of suppliers ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 1
M CQI-9 monitoring of temperature in die Various Other Specifications, Standards, and related Requirements 2
qualprod ISO 9001:2015 Cl. 4.1 and 4.2 - Evidences for Monitoring ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 6
G IATF 9.1.1.1 Monitoring and Measurement of Manufacturing Processes IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 5
qualprod ISO 9001 Cl. 4.1 and 4.2 - What does monitoring and review mean? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 13
T Supplier monitoring - The meaning of "8.4.2.4 " Customer disruptions IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 1
K ISO 13485:2016 Cl. 4.2.3 - Determine QMS Processes, Monitoring, Measuring, etc. ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 4
E IATF 16949 Cl. 9.1.2 - Monitoring Process Performance IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 1
C Method of Monitoring our Internally Produced Non-Conforming Products Quality Tools, Improvement and Analysis 7
B IATF 16949 Section Clause 8.3.4.1 - Monitoring - Design and Development Input(s) IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 3

Similar threads

Top Bottom