More Etiquette Issues : Earnhardt, Sosa

[Charmed]

Dear Covers:

Now, etiquette is much more widely prevalent than I thought. You can't curse if you are a NASCAR driver either. I don't know when they will start imposing restrictions on "spitting" all over the place, which I commonly see among both baseball and hockey players.

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"It don't mean s--- right now. Daddy's won here 10 times." This is what Dale Earnhardt Jr. said mistakenly. NASCAR president Mike Helton told drivers to watch their language on radio and television. Less than a month later, Johnny Sauter was fined $25,000 and docked 25 points after cursing during a radio interview following the Busch Series race in Las Vegas.

"Johnny said it in a fit of anger. I said it in Victory Lane. I hope they understand that it was in jubilation and I know me and those other guys that got fined let it slip, but it's two different circumstances.

NASCAR spokeswoman Denise Maloof said Nextel Cup director John Darby and vice president for competition Robin Pemberton were "aware of the situation and would address it on Tuesday or Wednesday. That doesn't necessarily mean that he will be fined or lose points."

The verbal slips..... Dale Earnhardt does not want to lose any points now.

Charmed

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BTW, did anyone watch the World Golf Championship in Ireland? These guys were playing golf under the nastiest conditions imaginable: heay rain, blustering winds, and cold! Once again Tiger lost and has now slipped to third place in the world golf rankings. Even so, I again saw Tiger removing his golfing cap first before shaking hands with his opponents at the end of the game. I guess, these things are just instinctive.

 

[Carl Keller]

Nascar has rules?

The whole sport is based on beer bellied Billy-Bobs that chew tobbacco and spend disability checks on suitcases of Busch beer!

If you were to rank sports on civility and sportsmanlike conduct, NASCAR would not even be on the radar.

If you want to watch civilized motorsports, watch Formula one.

Yer killin me here!

Carl-

 

[Charmed]

More Etiquette Issues

Dear Laura and Carl:

I thought I will post this here instead of the baseball thread on Ichiro Suzuki and George Sisler. Here's another example of etiquette issue - this time in baseball.

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Sammy Sosa, who knew Saturday he wouldn't play in the finale, didn't arrive at Wrigley Field on Sunday until about 70 minutes before the first pitch.

He wasn't on the bench or in uniform for the game and left before the game ended.

"I was in the clubhouse until the seventh inning, when I left. I was in there with the other guys like I always do when he gives me a day off. I always stay inside," Sosa said.

Baker said after the game he didn't give Sosa permission to leave earlybut that "there's no tension between us." Sosa is expected to face some kind of disciplinary action from the Cubs.

Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said Monday that Sosa was wrong not to be dressed.

"There's certainly no excuse to miss the game, not dress and leave early," Hendry said.

I hope there are no new etiquette issues arising from the D_ _ _ _ _ _ this week.

 

[D.Scott]

I'm not sure I agree with your opinion of NASCAR Carl. Our company owns and operates Team MGD (Miller Gold Draft) Racing. Our president is one of the circuit's top drivers. Granted it is the "old-timers" of NASCAR (we are really HSCRA) but we use the same cars and tracks. There is a pretty close link between the two circuits. Check us out at www.teammgd.com

Dave

 

[Joe Cruse]

One of the reasons NASCAR is cracking down on language and ettiquette is that, though they have grown greatly, they are trying to expand their audience much farther than before, and are trying to project an image with the sport, one that does not include the language Jr used in winners circle :mg: . That, and they don't want the FCC on them either.

Of course, it goes without saying that it's not REALLY a sport, just a bunch of rednecks making a bunch of high speed, left hand turns, right????

 

[Charmed]

NASCAR and Academic Game Theorists

Folks, NASCAR is also attracting the academicians now.

Here's an interesting article on NASCAR racing and how the study of such racing events, by game theorists, is (fast, yes, pun intended) emerging as an unlikely laboratory for understanding the world the business world

https://slate.msn.com/id/2078672/

If some of you have been wondering why I keep bringing up sports analogies and deep science in this forum ........ here!

 

[Carl Keller]

NASCAR is a poster child for how marketing hype will cause people to blindly follow anything like sheep.

Do they have high horsepower engines and use state of the art technology now? Sure they do. It still pales in comparison to other forms of racing. I can soup up my riding lawnmower and race it or even power a barstool and enter sanctioned competition, but I certainly would not expect the same amount of respect as other forms of motorsports.

If you like it, by all means keep watching and keep supporting it, but you are going to have a real hard time convincing me that it is anything more than the WWF of the racing world. One look at the "fans in the stands" tells the story.

The marketing world knows it is easier to bilk a bunch of low income people out of a moderate amount of money than getting a few high income folks to part with big cash. Hence Daves company support of team MGD. I guarantee you those fans are buying that product as a direct result of the NASCAR marketing effort. The company didn't sponsor a race car out of the kindness of their hearts.

Formula one marketing focuses on Rolex, Omega, Sony, Large financial institutions etc. It is HUGELY expensive, much more high tech and....Elitist.

NASCAR marketing focuses on several beer manufacturers, Tobacco products and Tide to wash out the stains from both.

Carl-

 

[jaimezepeda]

Dear Covers:

Now, etiquette is much more widely prevalent than I thought. You can't curse if you are a NASCAR driver either. I don't know when they will start imposing restrictions on "spitting" all over the place, which I commonly see among both baseball and hockey players.

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"It don't mean s--- right now. Daddy's won here 10 times." This is what Dale Earnhardt Jr. said mistakenly. NASCAR president Mike Helton told drivers to watch their language on radio and television. Less than a month later, Johnny Sauter was fined $25,000 and docked 25 points after cursing during a radio interview following the Busch Series race in Las Vegas.
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The verbal slips..... Dale Earnhardt does not want to lose any points now.

Charmed

Charmed

Earnhart Jr. was indeed fined and his point loss caused him the series lead.
(broken link removed) He also cause his car's owner to lose 25 points in the NASCAR series.

Jaime

 

[Craig H.]

NASCAR is a poster child for how marketing hype will cause people to blindly follow anything like sheep.

Do they have high horsepower engines and use state of the art technology now? Sure they do. It still pales in comparison to other forms of racing. I can soup up my riding lawnmower and race it or even power a barstool and enter sanctioned competition, but I certainly would not expect the same amount of respect as other forms of motorsports.

If you like it, by all means keep watching and keep supporting it, but you are going to have a real hard time convincing me that it is anything more than the WWF of the racing world. One look at the "fans in the stands" tells the story.

The marketing world knows it is easier to bilk a bunch of low income people out of a moderate amount of money than getting a few high income folks to part with big cash. Hence Daves company support of team MGD. I guarantee you those fans are buying that product as a direct result of the NASCAR marketing effort. The company didn't sponsor a race car out of the kindness of their hearts.

Formula one marketing focuses on Rolex, Omega, Sony, Large financial institutions etc. It is HUGELY expensive, much more high tech and....Elitist.

NASCAR marketing focuses on several beer manufacturers, Tobacco products and Tide to wash out the stains from both.

Carl-

Carl, I don't have the time to Google it right now, but one reason why marketers like NASCAR so much is brand loyalty. It used to be "win on SUnday, sell on Monday" for the big 3. Fans that cheer for Tide's car (some puns are all washed up) are more likely to have Tide on the washing machine.

I watch NASCAR pretty much because it gives me something to talk about at work. Formula 1 I like now, but I really liked the CAN-AM days.

 

[Carl Keller]

Can Am was indeed a wonderful racing endeavor.

How about:

Porsche 917

Ford GT 40

The "Chapparal"

Ferrari...where do I start?

So many cars, so little....Money?


I am sure you have seen the movie "Grand Prix" with Paul Newman and James Garner. Now THOSE were the days!

Carl-