Moving a Calibration/Test Laboratory to a new Location

tacom

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According to clause 5.4.2 of 17025 Lab. must confirm that it can properly operate standard method before introducing the tests. So, to fulfill this requirement some studies (precision, bias etc..) must be done.
İf laboratory ( using instrumental analysis ) moves to new place All the work (precision, bias, etc..) done should be renewed ?. if not what work should be done ?
Do you share your thoughts with me please?
Thanks in advance

TACOM
 
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Hello Tacom! :bigwave:

If I understand your question, you have a current calibration/ test laboratory with existing measurement uncertainties calculated. You are wanting to move that calibration/test laboratory, and you are wondering if new tests need to be performed in the new location.

Have you performed a validation of the new facility, and the installation? Are environmental factors controlled to the same level (or tighter) than in the existing location?
 

tacom

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We have a chemical lab. We are doing chemical analysis using gas chromatography (GC). İn order to confirm that we properly operate standard method we did some studies called method verification.That is repeatability , LOD;LOQ; Recovery ,…studies.
Now we are planning to move another location where it’s laboratory facilities better than existing one . After moving all balances will be calibrated and GC will be subjected to performance and operational calification ( PO and OQ) test by vendor again.
My question is after moving new lab. all verification studies (repeatability , LOD;LOQ; Recovery etc..) should be done from beginning to end again? Or to what degree these studies should be done?
Thanks again
TACOM
 

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According to clause 5.4.2 of 17025 Lab. must confirm that it can properly operate standard method before introducing the tests. So, to fulfill this requirement some studies (precision, bias etc..) must be done.
İf laboratory ( using instrumental analysis ) moves to new place All the work (precision, bias, etc..) done should be renewed ?. if not what work should be done ?
Do you share your thoughts with me please?
Thanks in advance

TACOM
Have you checked with your accreditation body?
The body I work with (A2LA) has a policy document concerning moving a lab, and can let you know what they would expect from your organization.
 

BradM

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We have a chemical lab. We are doing chemical analysis using gas chromatography (GC). İn order to confirm that we properly operate standard method we did some studies called method verification.That is repeatability , LOD;LOQ; Recovery ,?studies.
Now we are planning to move another location where it?s laboratory facilities better than existing one . After moving all balances will be calibrated and GC will be subjected to performance and operational calification ( PO and OQ) test by vendor again.
My question is after moving new lab. all verification studies (repeatability , LOD;LOQ; Recovery etc..) should be done from beginning to end again? Or to what degree these studies should be done?
Thanks again
TACOM
Tacom, sorry to ask another question. :D But does your organization have established Change Control? Hopefully you have some language already established for this type of move.

To answer your question, I would say it would depend on how the initial validation was conducted and the IQ of the equipment/instrumentation. For example, if you are moving an analytical balance, I would suggest that all the measurements should be repeated, as there are so many variables related to the environment that could affect those.

However, I would probably guess that the GC is less prone to IQ factors as the analytical balance. However, you have to disconnect hoses/lines, and individually move all those components. When you move it all back in the new place, hopefully you can have the vendor perform some type of maintenance/re-qualification on it. I would perform a system suitability on it to assure everything is OK. Within that suitability, you could verify repeatibility and such.

IMO, the level of activity required after the move depends on the accreditation body (as mentioned), existing Change Control documentation, Risk, and how well/thorough the original IOQ was performed. Saying, it may have a chart or something in it to demonstrate what actions are needed for a particular change.
 

Jerry Eldred

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We recently moved a lab under ISO17025. It was a fairly simple process. We discussed with our accreditation body, and detailed what ever changed. So if moving, I think it is a matter of considering that in the move, what things may have changed? If environmental conditions are critical, could be you need to analyze its impact. Many aspects of lab operation are unchanged in the move. Without knowing particulars of your lab operations, I can't comment on what those implications are.

I would say to have a good discussion with your accreditation body to find mutually agree on what things that could impact your measurement results/uncertainties have or may have been changed (and need to be evaluated).
 
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