MSA - Measurement System Analysis: Is compliance to 2nd edition sufficient?

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Andrews

#1
MSA 3rd edition

We are in compliance only to the MSA requirements put forth in MSA 2nd edition.We have not implemented MSA 3rd edition requirements.

Since MSA manual is only for REFERENCE.Is compliance to 2nd edition sufficient.
 
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Atul Khandekar

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I believe you are asking from the external audit point of view.
Is there any perticular reason for not following the third edition - considering that it was released over a year ago?
From what I have seen, most auditors would expect you to follow third edition. The best thing is to check with your auditors. Also, I think if your customers say they accept 2nd edition, auditors may not object.

Any other views?
 

howste

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#3
Do you know what requirement(s) of the 3rd edition are not being met? It would be much easier to give a good answer if specifics are mentioned...
 
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JaySturgeon

#4
Third Edition

Since MSA manual is only for REFERENCE.Is compliance to 2nd edition sufficient.

It has been my experience that you need to be using the third, not second edition. If for no other reason than satisfying your Certification.

:smokin:
 
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Andrews

#5
We are not able to implement the same because the training programme attended by us on the above subject was not effective.
 

Atul Khandekar

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#6
Andrews,

Are you doing all the MSA studies (bias, Stability etc) or just the R&R? There is no difference in the R&R test (Range-Average) in 3rd edition, except the K factors. You can conduct at least the R&R studies yourself. Refer to the MSA manual, and I don't think you should have any problems conducting other studies as well. And if in doubt, ask for help at the Cove!
 
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