MSA Study Requirements for Control Plans

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Sean Kelley

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I have been told that for every device on a control plan you should have an MSA study. Is this a requirement or a should have? I am at a steel mill and some things listed on our control plan are process oriented such as a pyrometer measuring temperature or an x-ray gauge measuring thickness. Measurement using these devicews are not reported on a customer material test report. Just wanted some advice on this.

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Sean,

If you are working to ISO TS, then all measurement systems on the control plan need to be analysed using MSA. However all measurement systems used to demonstrate product conformity need to be calibarated.
 
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Sean Kelley

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We are working to the TS automotive standard. The only reference I have is section 4.2 on page 34 of the APQP and CP book. It basically states that these devices should be used and be subjected to MSA evaulation during or prior to production run. We have been using many of these devices since before TS or even QS was around so prior to production was certainly not possible. I am wanting to ensure we are doing what is required first then catch up anything else later.
 
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soverton

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Hi Sean-

Take your TS106949 standard and look up 7.6.1 Measurement System Analysis. Where it states in the standard shall, it must be done.....:)
 

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Sean,

Kind of confusing isn't it. The standard says you must do MSA's. The "Blue books" say it might be a good idea. It is an easy miss.

In reality, it is not value added in a lot of cases. Good luck.
 
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