Re: Must a vernier caliper and a rule be calibrated?
A little yes, a little no.
Sounds like more than just an oddball contingency. If we waited long enough, I am sure a long list of disputed 'need for calibration' nonconformances could be compiled. If so, the standard is too prescriptive (or not prescriptive enough), and should be readily amended to eliminate the problem. This is particularly important for ISO 17025 - more so than ISO 9001.
So, it sounds like there is a whole level of gage criteria where either the device should not be considered a gage, or it use unverified holds no risk. What risk that may encompass (risk of dismemberment or death?) would be the next bone of contention, I am sure.
As far as experiences in the world counting for something - it depends on whose experiences and what experiences they are. Even as a criteria, that can be inadequate. A good standard - emphasis on standard - should not leave it open of a clash of experiences during an audit. And, we see evidence of that here.
I'm assuming that this is sarcasm, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
If you feel that "the committee" should be an omniscient body that can account for every contingency in the day-to-day operation of a business, or that the committee's wisdom should always prevail, you're probably right. Some of us think that our experience in the world should count for something, however, and that we shouldn't have to run to the book every time a decision is made.
So, it sounds like there is a whole level of gage criteria where either the device should not be considered a gage, or it use unverified holds no risk. What risk that may encompass (risk of dismemberment or death?) would be the next bone of contention, I am sure.
As far as experiences in the world counting for something - it depends on whose experiences and what experiences they are. Even as a criteria, that can be inadequate. A good standard - emphasis on standard - should not leave it open of a clash of experiences during an audit. And, we see evidence of that here.

