Nadcap Certification for Printed Boards Assemblies

davidmxli

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Hello.
My name's David.
This is the first time that I post anything in Elsmar Cove Forum, and I hope I'm doing it right, I couldn't find anything similar to my doubt.

Okay, the thing is that in our company, we mainly manufacture cable and harnesses assemblies, but we also make, in less proportion, some printed board assemblies. What we do is pretty simple: we buy printed boards from approved suppliers, and we then add them capacitors, resistances, some soldering, some bonding and varnishing.

The question is: Which type of Nadcap certification will be the appropiate or applicable one for this kind of process?
I was thinking maybe AC7120, but I'm not sure, becase it talks about circuit card assemblies, with programs loaded, CAD/CAM, verification of softwares, etc., and we don't actually perform that kind of processes, and for the items of the AC7120 that does apply to us are practically the same from AC7121 (receiving, storage, manual soldering, inspection, rework, etc.), and we hace that certification, but aparently it is not enough.

I really hope you can help me, because the Top Manager is all over me asking when will be this certification audit take place, what will we need, etc., but I'm not even sure which cert do we need, or even if we need another one different from AC7121.

Thanks in advance!
 
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PaulJSmith

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Hi, David!
Welcome to The Cove!
...AC7121 (receiving, storage, manual soldering, inspection, rework, etc.), and we hace that certification, but aparently it is not enough.
Whoever told you this (customer?, auditor?, random guy?) should surely be able to tell you why your current certification is inadequate, and what you need instead or in addition to that cert. I would start there.

...and maybe a PO review?
 

davidmxli

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Hello to you Paul!

Yes, I know, that was my first thought, but the customer has been a little cryptic with this subject, and also, I checked the Customer's PO and their supplier's manual, but it only calls out for "required Nadcap certification for any special process such as electrics/wiring", which is where, I believe, my process fits.

Let's just say it's a very special customer, but I think that if I can refute the need of a new cert (because of the current one we already have), maybe they would not ask us that as a requirement.
 

Sidney Vianna

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The question is: Which type of Nadcap certification will be the appropiate or applicable one for this kind of process?
Welcome to The Cove.

You really should be asking your customer to precisely specify the approval you are expected to attain. Theirs is the only answer that really matters in this case. In terms of speculative opinions, I would definitely think AC7120 is the most appropriate program for you.

http://www.pri-network.org/nadcap/accreditation/

Electronics
The Electronics Task Group (ETG) conducts audits to demonstrate compliance to the following:
AC7119 – Printed Circuit Boards
AC7119/1 – Rigid Printed Boards
AC7119/2 – Flexible and Rigid-Flexible Printed Boards
AC7119/3 – High Density Interconnect Printed Boards
AC7120 – Printed Circuit Assemblies
AC7121 – Cable and Harness
Ready to begin the accreditation process? Then log on to eAuditNet
For more information on the Electronics Task Group, please contact:
Bill Dumas Senior Staff Engineer +1 724 772 8673
Susan Frailey Staff Engineer +1 618 615 4478
 
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DarrellH

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Hi David,
the kind of PCB assembly you describe does not sound particularly suited to Nadcap 7120, that standard is written around automated assembly via SMT & reflow ovens, where you can only control the process via temp profile / solder paste thickness / speeds etc, etc,
Have you looked at IPC-610? this is an inspection standard which your operators should use to verify the quality of thier work.
I would
1. Familiarise yourself with both IPC and Nadcap requirements
2. Decide which is of greatest benefit to your customer
3. Have a "grown-up" discussion with your customer

if necessary get an industry expert involved.
 

dsanabria

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#6
Once again - let the customer dictate what is appropriate.

Communication with the customer is your next step and ask them for guidance and what requirements you need to comply with... don't loose sleep over this one - let the customer decide this for you.
 
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