NADCAP Initial Audit Cancellation

[JoCam]

Hi All,

Has anybody else out there had their initial audit for nadcap cancelled? I am being told that the auditors are concentrating only on re-certifications for now.

This little "hiccup" or should I say "enormous belch" has thrown all our plans into disarray and may result in loss of business.

I was already picking up the pieces after being told the audit was in June 2013 after requesting it in August 2012! This resulted in failed business objectives and an extremely unhappy Managing Director.

We took on additional staff to assist with the workload and shelved important improvements to our business management system, all of which now seem to have been unnecessary due to the goal posts moving once again.

I would appreciate some feedback on this matter, if only to find out whether I am indeed alone in this situation.

Thanks in advance,

 

[Stijloor]

If the various business sectors had stuck with ISO 9001 instead of developing their own cumbersome and costly certification schemes, none of this would have happened. The initial goal of a ISO 9001 is now completely ignored and it has become a complete mess. :mg:

Just my

 

[PaulJSmith]

I couldn't agree more. While I understand the aerospace industry's desire to tailor a standard to their particular needs, there's really not enough difference in the essential principles to justify it.

...and NADCAP is yet another completely unnecessary level of bureaucracy, in my less-than-humble opinion.

 

[ingeneren]

with over 25 years aerospace management behind my belt, I can say yes I have had glitches in getting my NADCAP audit done by the registering body.

This frequently happens when there are changes to the NADCAP requirements and the auditors need to be retrained and recertificed to the new changes.

Not uncommon-- I have had this happen with Nadcap and ISO-- I think it is unprofessional for them not to plan for this but it is out of our control since NADCAP is a requirement when if you expect to do business with Aerospace. Hang in there.

Susan Frost CQA, CQE, ME

 

[Sidney Vianna]

I would appreciate some feedback on this matter, if only to find out whether I am indeed alone in this situation.

I know that PRI is trying to expand their resources in Europe and Asia. I know one of their top people, who is involved with their relationships with the Industry. I would be happy to connect you and him, should you be interested to dialogue with their leadership directly. Send me a PM and I will forward you his contact information.

 

[andygr]

This task group appears to have some "issues" that will not go away soon. Not only lack of auditors but lack of member suport.
http://www.pri-network.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ETGMinutesFeb2013UNCONFIRMED.doc

Anyone want to be a Nadcap ETG auditor?


http://www.pri-network.org/nadcap/become-an-auditor/

 

[JoCam]

Hi Elsmar Cove,

I have been using your forum for many years, and it has helped with the development of both my skills and career. Whenever I come up against a brick wall, and nobody is giving me the answers I need to be able to move on, the Cove always comes through.

I felt compelled to "sing your praises" following the help I received from this thread.

With our initial nadcap audit cancelled and no new date being proposed for anytime soon, all the hard work that myself and the Nadcap team had put in was going to result in non-achievement of a top level business objective for 2013. I turned to the Cove, and as a result of my thread reaching the right person (thank you Sidney) we are back on track, with the audit rescheduled for 5 to 8 August.

Elsmar Cove, I am forever in your debt.

All we have to do now is make sure we get it.

Jo

 

[Mikishots]

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All we have to do now is make sure we get it.

Based on what's been going on with NADCAP recently, getting it is the easy part.

Congrats on a solid resolution to your problem!

 

[Big Jim]

Hi Elsmar Cove,

I have been using your forum for many years, and it has helped with the development of both my skills and career. Whenever I come up against a brick wall, and nobody is giving me the answers I need to be able to move on, the Cove always comes through.

I felt compelled to "sing your praises" following the help I received from this thread.

With our initial nadcap audit cancelled and no new date being proposed for anytime soon, all the hard work that myself and the Nadcap team had put in was going to result in non-achievement of a top level business objective for 2013. I turned to the Cove, and as a result of my thread reaching the right person (thank you Sidney) we are back on track, with the audit rescheduled for 5 to 8 August.

Elsmar Cove, I am forever in your debt.

All we have to do now is make sure we get it.

Jo

Thank you so much for reporting back.

 

[JoCam]

Well we've done it, subject to closure of minor non-conformances of course.

Thank you once again to the Cove and Sidney.