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andygr

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For those having to deal with the electronics checklist here is a review sheet PRI has that you can provide imput back on the checklist questions.
Make sure you give logical justification.

Keep in mind that it is not the PRI Nadcap folks or auditors that come up with the questions (or guidance) it is driven by your customers who rarely agree with each other as to what has to be included in the final checklist that we get to suffer through. This is the reason the suplemental checklists came about in some of the methods because the majority of the members in a task group did not want to have everyone of the suppliers work to comply with a requirement unique to a single customer.

The newer the method being audited the more issues. Processes like Chemical processing, NDT, HT which have been in place for many years have better quidance and more consistancy between auditors and others than the newest methods such as electronics.
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Phiobi

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Johnny Bollocks said:
Under A SCOPE?!?!? that is pushing the envelope, eh? We are a pretty tight shop, though. We build circuit boards for military and aerospace industries. I am hoping we have our sh%# together at this point. Did you have to go back and forth with the task group on many C/As? or did you meet their requirements in one shot? I am ok taking a few hits, but if I have to spend weeks and months trying to satisfy some prick from Boeing, i'll go nuts. I have put too much time into this already.
And another thing!?!?!
They (Prime Reps) told me that once I am accredited I won't have to endure any more "Customer Audits." Has that been the case at your facility?
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not listen to your PRIME reps.... Just one example of why is that in December NADCAP gave us our PFD re-accreditation.... this covers us, amongst others Boeing Airbus BAE SYSTEMS.... now Airbus and Boeing both want to audit our PFD line!!!

I have 4 special process NADCAP accreditations! That means 12 months of the year we prepare for audits, are being audited or closing out NCR's.

My fav example to give people on how some of the auditors are I had a minor NCR on my chemical processing line because..... a label on a tank of WATER did not identify the tolerance of temperature control!!!! Fair point some of you will be saying..... the copy of the procedure NEXT to the label clearly stated the tolerance!!!

ANAL to the nth degree!

PS... I do trust any company with NADCAP though!
 
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andygr

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"PS... I do trust any company with NADCAP though! "

This kind of says it all. Good bad or otherwise you know that a firm that has made it through a Nadcap audit has a handle on what it takes to perform the process they are certified on.:2cents:
 
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Tom W

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We have our second HT audit coming up in two weeks - so it will be really interesting to me to see how this goes. I am cautiously optimistic as it’s like a crap shoot with the auditors interpretations.

I will update everyone in a few weeks on how it went.:rolleyes:
 
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Phiobi

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Tom W said:
We have our second HT audit coming up in two weeks - so it will be really interesting to me to see how this goes. I am cautiously optimistic as it’s like a crap shoot with the auditors interpretations.

I will update everyone in a few weeks on how it went.:rolleyes:
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Are you being audited to the new 'revised' standards? We have our HT audit the 1st 3 days of March and having to make a few changes due to the change in handbook!
 
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Tom W

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Phiobi said:
Are you being audited to the new 'revised' standards? We have our HT audit the 1st 3 days of March and having to make a few changes due to the change in handbook!
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I believe the new revision goes into effect after our audit - February 2nd. So i would gather that we are to the current one.
 
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Joan Lintz

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Congratulations on your 98.9% score on your AS9100 audit....we scored 100% on our initial AS9100 registration audit in October so we know what an accomplishment that is.
 
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Joan Lintz said:
Congratulations on your 98.9% score on your AS9100 audit....we scored 100% on our initial AS9100 registration audit in October so we know what an accomplishmet that is.
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Congratulations, but luckily, with the upcoming AS9101 standard, we will no longer quantify/score audit results in the Aerospace ICOP scheme. One less nonsensical dysfunction to deal with.
 
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Tom W

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Well we just had our second NADCAP audit for Heat Treat last week. It was once again a learning experience, as they are very proud of their checklists and their interpretations of heat treat.

We did ok with some items to correct but nothing to bad. Mostly procedural things that we where doing but were not in the procedure.
 
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jonc5150

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Yeah, let us know Tom. Good luck to you! I'm in the process of leading the NADCAP implementation at a Chemical Processing shop. Looks like we'll be ready by July :confused: I've gone through this a couple of other times with Heat Treat, but never CP. Anyone have any experiences hosting a CP audit? Thanks in advance!
 
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