NCR (Nonconformance Report) vs. MRB (Material Review Board)

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ttwerp65 - 2009

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So, what I am hearing is I can keep it to one form, call it Ncr or mrb form and still comply to standard. By the way, thanks for your time and help!!!;)
 
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So, what I am hearing is I can keep it to one form, call it Ncr or mrb form and still comply to standard. By the way, thanks for your time and help!!!;)
You can take it one step further as I did - my corrective action form is on the back of my non-conformance report.
 
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fuzzy

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I agree with all the comments thus far...but think you have "jumped the standard" at this point. Re-read 8.3 and find the shall's. There is nothing specific about forms / MRB's / etc. in there. You can have them, but other than records and a documented procedure that meets the shalls, IMHO what you will do should make sense for the size and activities at your business, not what other companies do at theirs. We have no separate MRB form, just an NCR (that we call DMR) which has a space for the recording of disposition. You may want to grant individuals the "authority" to disposition obvious scrap without any MRB group involvement (makes sense to me in a small company). Slow down and analyze the requirements first, then plan a system.;)
 
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ttwerp65 - 2009

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I like the idea of having the c.a on the back. Its neet and tidy and doesnt require extra hard copies. Great idea carol.:thanx:


Fuzzy, that seems to be the biggest challenge of this whole process and a huge part of the discussions in this forum. Rightly dividing the words of truth.:thanx:
 

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So, what I am hearing is I can keep it to one form, call it Ncr or mrb form and still comply to standard. By the way, thanks for your time and help!!!;)
Call it a NCR.

Carol is also right in suggesting that the back be used as your Corrective Action. That would meet the requirements in my opinion.
 

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I like the idea of having the c.a on the back. Its neet and tidy and doesnt require extra hard copies. Great idea carol..
That is definitely a good suggestion. Things to keep in mind:
  • Not all nonconforming products will require corrective actions.
  • Not all non-conforming products might require multifunctional dispositioning. E.g., operator kills a part that has no rework, repair possible.
  • Since you might work for aerospace and medical device clients, make sure you don't disposition the parts you might not have been granted authority to perform MRB.
But, first and foremost, keep it simple.
 
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fuzzy

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Not to confuse but...

I removed (years back) the CA on the backside of my NCR form, as there are many other input sources to the CA process besides NC materials, and I felt that I would have great difficulty tracking CA actions from NCR and my other CA / PA process. Heck, I have trouble tracking the one, right now, come to think of it:notme: But I still would say, consider that choice carefully. We write over 1000+ NCR's per year (don't ask)...so that may have clouded my vision. I am still resisting the Plant Mgr's. desire to add the CA portion back onto the form.:tg:
 
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