Nearly 4,500 Stranded on Cruise Ship off the Coast of Mexico

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Wes Bucey

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You'd think that, along with the food, someone would have had the presence of mind to ferry in a few electric generators so they could cook and keep refrigeration going.:bonk::bonk::bonk::bonk::bonk:
 

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You'd think that, along with the food, someone would have had the presence of mind to ferry in a few electric generators so they could cook and keep refrigeration going.:bonk::bonk::bonk::bonk::bonk:
Boy I don't know Wes.... those things are pretty huge.

We had an ASQ training cruise one year (leaving Galveston). During that, we got to have a tour of the engine room and such.

The ship we were on was all DC power driven. Everything was driven from those generators. You lose those; and you're done.

I'm just a bit surprised, though, at the logistics of it. It's not like they were out in the middle of the pacific. We were constantly passing all kinds of ships and such. However... if it left Sunday afternoon (from Galveston), then Monday it was in the middle of the gulf.

But... to your point, Wes. I believe I remembered that ship having a redundant system. So, not sure about this one.
 

Wes Bucey

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Boy I don't know Wes.... those things are pretty huge.

We had an ASQ training cruise one year (leaving Galveston). During that, we got to have a tour of the engine room and such.

The ship we were on was all DC power driven. Everything was driven from those generators. You lose those; and you're done.

I'm just a bit surprised, though, at the logistics of it. It's not like they were out in the middle of the pacific. We were constantly passing all kinds of ships and such. However... if it left Sunday afternoon (from Galveston), then Monday it was in the middle of the gulf.

But... to your point, Wes. I believe I remembered that ship having a redundant system. So, not sure about this one.
I recall one client whose operations were discombobulated by Hurricane Katrina 5 years ago. They rented skid-mounted, modular generators made by Cummins Diesel that were flown in by sky crane copters and had them all hooked and operating within 24 hours after the first one hit their parking lot. Cummins website contains this snippet - note 35 kW to 100 MW!
I don't have a clue what the power needs of a big ship like the one shown are, but I imagine a 100MW (100 million watts) generator would make a big difference over pop tarts and sardines eaten cold.
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tomvehoski

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It sounds like they have enough power to keep the necessities of life going - water (cold only), toilets, basic food. Not sure that trying to fly in generators for a day would really be an effective use of resources.

The bigger issue is what would have happened if this was a positioning cruise moving, for example, from the US to Europe across the Atlantic. Not a good time to be without engines if a storm comes up, and the probability of having a US aircraft carrier task force to assist is much smaller than off the coast of San Diego.
 

BradM

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I'm still a bit interested in having a fire in the first place.

On the cruise ship I toured, the fire system was wired with monitors into the control deck (or whatever the correct term is). It was monitored 24/7 by the captain, co-captain, senior officer. Because... as was explained to me... they can pretty much handle most every issue that falls before them, except a fire. So, all the detectors and such are very closely monitored.

I would theorize that possibly a motor caught fire or something.
 

BradM

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I recall one client whose operations were discombobulated by Hurricane Katrina 5 years ago. They rented skid-mounted, modular generators made by Cummins Diesel that were flown in by sky crane copters and had them all hooked and operating within 24 hours after the first one hit their parking lot. Cummins website contains this snippet - note 35 kW to 100 MW!
I don't have a clue what the power needs of a big ship like the one shown are, but I imagine a 100MW (100 million watts) generator would make a big difference over pop tarts and sardines eaten cold.
Good points Wes.:agree1:

I'm just thinking out loud (that's me thinking below)...


one of the issues with that is you would have to have hookups for the generators. You have to have a port for such things. So if everything is hard-wired in; it might borderline impossible trying to tap the lines with an alternate power source.

Even if there was that ability, they would have to run some pretty heavy size cables from the deck, down several floors into the engine room and stuff.
 

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Wes Bucey

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Good points Wes.:agree1:

I'm just thinking out loud (that's me thinking below)...


one of the issues with that is you would have to have hookups for the generators. You have to have a port for such things. So if everything is hard-wired in; it might borderline impossible trying to tap the lines with an alternate power source.

Even if there was that ability, they would have to run some pretty heavy size cables from the deck, down several floors into the engine room and stuff.
I would have thought the same thing for the Katrina event, but the riggers who come with the generators are very savvy and nothing seemed to faze them as they worked with high voltage (220 & 440) and transforming into AC from DC and vice versa is child's play to them. Three-phase motors and all, just "routine" as far as they were concerned. They ran everything from the parking lot.

As far as cables, I'd rather avoid a cable than live on cold sardines and crackers, wouldn't you? Plus, it might be nice to have more than a battery lamp if you are in an inside cabin with no porthole!

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I'm still a bit interested in having a fire in the first place.

On the cruise ship I toured, the fire system was wired with monitors into the control deck (or whatever the correct term is). It was monitored 24/7 by the captain, co-captain, senior officer. Because... as was explained to me... they can pretty much handle most every issue that falls before them, except a fire. So, all the detectors and such are very closely monitored.

I would theorize that possibly a motor caught fire or something.
Kids smoking in the barn? That was the cause of a recent fire on a farm down the road from my home.
 
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