New Documenting Methods for Manufacturing Process Audits?

Crusader

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Just curious what the latest fad is on auditing manufacturing processes. What do you use to document your manufacturing process audits?

I'm still using a Turtle diagram along with a question sheet to support the internal and ISO rqmts. Boring. :sleep:

Every year, I evaluate the last audit method I used and try to improve it for the next audit go-around.

Is there anything new, better....something you prefer? If so, post it please.
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Re: New Document Methods for Manufacturing Process Audits?

Any comments, folks?
 
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Re: New Document Methods for Manufacturing Process Audits?

It's not a 'fad' - well not yet - but have you tried my 'football' diagram?

I have a number of past clients who've used it successfully, even where their CB auditor has recommended it to others........;):cool:
 

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Take the control plan and write on it what you see in the field.
:eek: we don't use them. I mean, we have them but they're not used - not useful at all in my opinion. Each plan is for a "family", nothing part specific so there are no hard numbers on them. All control plans refer to a dwg, a work order, and/or a traveler for hard numbers. :eek:
 

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Re: New Document Methods for Manufacturing Process Audits?

It's not a 'fad' - well not yet - but have you tried my 'football' diagram?

I have a number of past clients who've used it successfully, even where their CB auditor has recommended it to others........;):cool:
I downloaded the "manufootball" and could not get it to print correctly on any printer here at work. :frust: I was forced to edit the doc. I removed page 2 - don't need it cause I'd rather use a portrait-setup 8x11 sheet for notes/comments. I moved things around basically just to get it to print without losing the right side of the diagram/form. Did some minor wording revisions, you prolly won't even notice them. Made some of the boxes larger too.

It would help to see one of these forms completely filled-in. The audit scope is at the top and in the middle. Why 2 places?
 

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The audit scope wording around the center is to help keep the auditor's focus to that which pertains to the process when they start to fill the details in around the form. That way, when gathering information about the specific process, they shouldn't be as distracted by out of scope info.

The scope in the header is what the Audit Manager wants the auditors to focus on.....

I'm delighted that you've taken and modified it to suit. As with all tools, no one tool does the job and often they need to be modified - look how 'Snap On' have made a great business of modifying basic tools!

I don't have a filled out version. What has happened is that the auditors using this form have spent some time studying the relevant documentation related to the 'bubbles' around the process, plus the process itself. Typically, they write in references to WI's, procedures etc etc authorities, positions/job titles - everything that is of importance to know 'what the answer is' to the questions they are about to ask.

While in the audit, they use an alternate pen color to the one they wrote the information in with, to make notes etc when verifying the situations during the audit. The second page is for other information gathered which may also be referenced now or later.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you need anything more.....:agree1:
 

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I review the process procedure, mark it up with notes and questions I have based on TS and the QMS, and make a checklist out of the questions and comments I wrote plus the usual prompts to sample: training, cleanliness, SPC etc.
 

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I review the process procedure, mark it up with notes and questions I have based on TS and the QMS, and make a checklist out of the questions and comments I wrote plus the usual prompts to sample: training, cleanliness, SPC etc.
Yeah, we do that too. But that isn't a layered audit is it? Aren't you required to do layered audits with TS??
 
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