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I suspect RhoRho has been on the receiving end of some marketing material from a registrar pushing registration of an integrated management system.

My paper recycling bin is full of the stuff.
 
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RhoRho may not be totally off base. There is a group within ISO called the SAG-MSS (Strategic Advisory Group on Management System Standardization.)

"The Strategic Advisory Group on Management System Standardization will provide strategic oversight and advice to the Technical Management Board on evolutions in MSS standardization, and the Joint Technical Coordination Group, which will ensure technical coordination between committees preparing MSS, recommends that the Strategic Advisory Group propose actions to improve ISO’s reach towards the public and private sectors in order to better address trends in management practices, expectations on MSS, and the promotion of the ISO MSS.

The Strategic Advisory Group on Management Systems Standards [is] requested to look into ways to further address ISO’s reach towards the public and private sectors in order to better address trends in management practices, expectations on MSS, and the promotion of the ISO MSS."

As it was descrbed to me, one of the objectives of the SAG-MSS was to look at the possibility, strategy and benefits of integrating quality, environmental and security MSS into one generic, over reaching standard. The SAG-MSS is also to look at the exsistence of sector specific standards, why they exist, what will the future of standards look like, etc. The SAG-MSS has the responsibility of reviewing what MSS are being published, do they meet the needs of the users, where we wil be in the future, where do MSS want to be, what is the vision, etc.

I am in no way an expert on this group or their responsibility, but one person did describe their charter to include an analysis of one integrate MSS.

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Dirk
 
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PAS 99 is available out there and serves as a framework for integration of Management Systems. Unless ISO TCs 176 and 207 suffer from short term memory loss, less than 2 years ago they declared the intention of making ISO 9001 and 14001 more compatible, BUT KEPT as distinct documents. For more information check the hyperlinked file I posted here.
 
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amanbhai

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piney said:
Preliminary information I received from a member of the TC 176 committee this morning:
2005 - there will be an addendum to ISO 9001:2000 brought out that will more clearly define much of the terminology in the standard.

2008- another addendum

2010 - next revision to the standard ISO 9001:2010, although there continues to be much discussion on this.
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Is there any addendum in 2005?
 
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amanbhai

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RhoRho said:
ISO has been discussing making one ISO standard that would encompass quality, environment, and safety. The assumption embedded in what I have read is that they would obsolete ISO 9001, ISO 14001, and the safety standard (I think it is ISO 18001). Many small companies, I believe, would drop their ISO registration due to the high cost of maintaining these 3 systems in their facilities. Many small businesses have difficulty maintaining one of the management systems and I believe a combined system that must contain safety, environmental, and quality continuous improvement would over extend their resources.
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What you can do is that integrate the other standards with ISO 9001. What I mean to say is that you can intergate the management part of these standards. That would reduce your efforts, time, money (resources) as well as sync the entire system (eliminate the redunduncy)
Correct me if i'm wrong.:thanks:
 
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tyker said:
http://seminar.bsi-global.com/p53224348/

This is the BSI presentation on the changes.
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I don't understand slide 9. The CD1 of ISO 9004:2009 is so different from ISO 9004:2000 that I don't understand why they keep saying that 9004:2009 will still be a companion document to ISO 9001:2009 and a consistent pair. Jack West says the same in his latest QD column, but from where I sit, I see 9004 and 9001 miles apart. Not conflicting, but very, very distinct documents.
 
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