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Non conformity, do nothing? Employee experiencing "hard times"

Jim Wynne

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#21
It can't. That's why it's call "continuous quality improvement," because no system is perfect and can always be improved.
No one should think that a process or system can be "perfect." The idea should be optimization, which means that the system operates as well as can be expected given the known constraints. Such a state of operation Is achievable and should always be the goal.
 
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qualprod

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#22
qualprod, if a machine malfunctions due to stress and wear, do you say the root cause is the machine, or that it is the stress and wear? Do you repair it or replace it?
Watchcat
The root cause could be lack of preventive maintenance, it could be repaired/changed.
Stress is if you meant Material is suffering mechanical stresses.
 

qualprod

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#23
Similar to Golfman...

I've talked before about establishing triggers for helping an organization determine when to take a correction versus corrective action. Is your organization's system so rigid that corrective action is always required? Defining types of failures AND the failure outcomes (example : Nonconformances on Product Line A < $xxx = Correction) can help reduce the human determination of correction versus corrective action, it also takes out the human emotional contributing factor towards the nonconforming effect.
RoxaneB
Thanks,could you share examples of criteria (triggers) to define if apply correction or corrective action? it sound very interesting
I think I could apply it for me, besides to use it to apply corrections/corrective action it may be useful as well to define when to raise NCR (nonconformity reports).
 

Mike S.

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#24
MIchael M and Ninja both gave clear examples of the employee being at fault as a root cause --unless you are the kind of person who thinks root cause analysis should always involve going back to the big bang or elsewhere beyond your control, or unless the company hired these people knowing they had a history of this behavior.

But IMO employee error doesn't have to be willful.
 

RoxaneB

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#25
RoxaneB
Thanks,could you share examples of criteria (triggers) to define if apply correction or corrective action? it sound very interesting
I think I could apply it for me, besides to use it to apply corrections/corrective action it may be useful as well to define when to raise NCR (nonconformity reports).
I start down the pathway of explaining triggers here.

Examples and the triggers points must be unique to your organization (i.e., products, processes, culture, management system maturity, etc.) and based off of REAL data...no 'I feel' or 'I believe' or 'I think'.

Setting triggers also means that your organization is focusing their attention and resources on the issues that have higher risks/costs/impact/effect. In my previous job, we referred to a correction as a quick "wham, bam, let's get back to making steel" scenario. We fixed it, got back on track, and went back to work. Corrective actions, however, required more work with root cause analysis, action plans, etc. But either way, there was a nonconformance and it was recorded because each occurrence of a nonconformance is a data point to be part of a higher-level analysis.

You essentially identify as many nonconformance situations as possible and then, using real data, determine what the thresholds are for doing a correction, corrective action, and even preventive action, if you want. We documented this in a table/matrix, so that on a regular basis (e.g., annually as part of our annual and strategic planning process), we would re-evaluate and adjust our triggers accordingly. Sometimes, it was a balancing act between continual improvement and realism and priorities.

Current Year 2019

SCENARIO - After analysing your data, you decide to set some triggers. In the first example, let's say 80% of your complaints that want cash-back/rebates are valued at less than $100 and it will cost you more to investigate them than it would to simply pay the customer. In the second example, let's say you are noticing Machine A has a lot of unscheduled downtime because it's not set-up properly and in a timely fashion.

1. Simple and Generic Example

Customer complaint where they are asking for a rebate/cash-back:
  • Correction - Rebate/Cash-back < $100
  • Corrective Action - Rebate/Cash-back >= $100
  • Preventive Action - Rebate/Cash-back from same customer > 5 times in a fiscal year
2. Less Simple and Generic Example

Machine A unscheduled downtime due to set-up delays:
  • Correction - Delays < 30 minutes
  • Corrective Action - Delays >= 30 minutes
  • Preventive Action - >5 consecutive unscheduled delays <30 minutes within past 7 days (rolling calendar)
Next Year 2020

SCENARIO - Now it's time to start planning for the next year. You pull the data and notice that cash-back $$$ haven't changed, but that Customer XYZ increased from 3 complaints in 2018 to 50 in 2019, sometimes they want cash-back, but over 75% of the time it's because of poor packaging. However, their volume has also increased making them one of your more important customers. You do the math and see that Customer XYZ has moved from 1 complaint per 1,000 widgets shipped to 1 complaint per 100 widgets shipped!

As part of the analysis, as well, it is shown that Machine A's unscheduled down time due to set-up delays has improved quite significantly. 80% of the unscheduled downtime due to set-up delays is now < 20 minutes.

1. Simple and Generic Example

Customer complaint where they are asking for a rebate/cash-back:
  • Correction - Rebate/Cash-back < $100
  • Corrective Action - Rebate/Cash-back >= $100 OR Any packaging-related complaint from Customer XYZ (regardless of cost)
  • Preventive Action - Rebate/Cash-back from same customer > 5 times in a fiscal year
2. Less Simple and Generic Example

Machine A unscheduled downtime due to set-up delays:
  • Correction - Delays < 20 minutes
  • Corrective Action - Delays >= 20 minutes
  • Preventive Action - >5 consecutive unscheduled delays <30 minutes within past 7 days (rolling calendar)
@>--\---/----

Improvement on trigger thresholds will not magically improve. As part of our annual and strategic planning, we tied our projects, initiatives, and objectives to metrics which were often aligned with certain trigger metrics. Using the Machine A example, we would, for example, have a documented plan to reduce those set-up delays causing unscheduled downtime.

If you're not sure where to start with your list of triggers, look at your companies objectives. Hopefully, there are metrics that will be able to support the claim of meeting (or not meeting) objectives. Take those metrics and, using data, calculate your trigger thresholds.
 

Jen Kirley

Quality and Auditing Expert
Staff member
Admin
#26
There is an HR aspect to this. The original question was about errors made because the employee was going through "hard times."

Back in the old days of the U.S. Navy, sailors were told "Your family didn't come in your seabag," in other words "Your problems belong to you, leave them at home where they belong."

But that is not always practical or possible. After many years the Navy re-evaluated their position and decided the sailors performed better - and stayed out of trouble more often - when their personal well-being was supported. They put in programs to help with personal problems where possible and practical. For my part, after nearly going bankrupt (which did impact my work as I was preoccupied with these money problems) my command sent me to a week-long Command Financial Specialist school and made me into a shipboard Financial Counselor. That might seem odd, but it worked and I was able to help others after that - most recently including my son long after my own discharge. But I digress.

The employer can't do everything, but knowledgeable personnel may be able to point to resources that could bring relief, or at the very least let personnel know they are not alone in this; the employer sees the "big picture" and values the individual enough to invest in him or her.

So while dealing with the errors in an immediate sense which is always a valuable discussion, I want to offer that in times of tight labor markets for skilled personnel there may be value to your organization in caring for the person as well as the process.
:2cents:
 
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