Nonconformities on TS16949 recertification audit

[msandilands]

Hi Howard, the requirement is in the MSA handbook.
Must have been there for ever and overlooked for the same.

 

[Stijloor]

Hi Howard, the requirement is in the MSA handbook.
Must have been there for ever and overlooked for the same.

Some clarification if I may.... Be aware that the AIAG MSA manual provides guidelines for the MSA process. It does not contain requirements in the sense of "shall's." Out of the the five AIAG Core Tool manuals, only the PPAP manual contains requirements. The customer, through their Customer Specific Requirements (CSR's) requires the use of the AIAG manuals to aid in the development of "processes for product realization."

By the way, what requirement did the auditor cite in the nonconformity statement?

Stijloor.

 

[msandilands]

Ok well it is a requirement of the TS specification that "The analytical methods and acceptance criteria used shall conform to those in customer reference manuals on measurement systems analysis."
So there is no escape there, then!
Although I do find it rather odd that in the years I have been involved in completing gauge studies the question of stability, bias and lineriarity has not been raised either by the customer or an auditor. Is this going to be this years "beat em up" topic on audit I wonder"

 

[mwebs]

We are fixing to go through recertification, can you tell me what is going to happen and what to expect

 

[Helmut Jilling]

We are fixing to go through recertification, can you tell me what is going to happen and what to expect

It's just like your surveillance audits. Except, they have to audit every process, like in the or Stage 2 certification audit. Also, any nonconformities must be closed before they can renew your cert. If you are maintaining your system in good order, it is just another audit, just more in depth. The CB is also supposed to send a different audit team than before, per the new TS Rules 3rd ed.

Good Luck to you!