OLD Standard Documentation QS-9000 & TE (Tooling and Equipment suppliers supplement)

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baby, bathwater, bathtub, what did you throw out?

michelle8075 said:
implementing 9K2K
Michelle

Just curious

Did any QS and TE stuff "stick around" in your new 9K2K system?

IMHO there were and are some darn good business ideas in and amongst all those pages.

I often cringe when people get all excited about how few procedures are "required" by 9K2K, I think they are missing the point.

Seriously, what is left behind of TE? How did you decide what to keep? And what not to keep?
 
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Caster said:
Michelle

Just curious

Did any QS and TE stuff "stick around" in your new 9K2K system?

IMHO there were and are some darn good business ideas in and amongst all those pages.

I often cringe when people get all excited about how few procedures are "required" by 9K2K, I think they are missing the point.

Seriously, what is left behind of TE? How did you decide what to keep? And what not to keep?
lol.... I had to crack open my old QS TE standard to remember some things.

Funny you ask, because I kept many, many things that were TE. I actually went to our Steering Committee when we were setting up new procedures, work instructions, forms etc. and specifically said that we need to keep many of the TE requirements in our procedures, etc.

The big 3 told us that there would be no TE supplement, and that we should move to 9K2K, and adhere to all customer requirements. So basically, most of what is in TE are still their requirements that we are required to meet. It didn't make sense to me to just start chopping away because we would in the end up shooting ourselves in the foot. Also, the company I work for has come a long way in the last 5 years. Quality used to be a dirty word and there was much resistance to change even though the management wanted QS-TE. So, instead of taking these standard, effective business practices out of our procedures, etc. I kept them in.

I also noticed that there are requirements in 9K2K that can be implemented by using what was set up in the QS-TE standard. Those were practices that everyone here was used to, it met our customer requirements, and it has been effective for us over the last couple years.

Now, don't get me wrong... I did some modifications and basically took out anything that wasn't value added. The biggest change to our company as 9K2K was implemented was it gave us a different angle to look at our business and how to approve. The best thing to me was the fact that the 9K2K standard wasn't cluttered by some requirements that were strictly the "Big 3's" idea of how we should run our business. It was especially hard for us, because not everything in QS fit into our business of producing Tooling & Equipment. Although there was a supplement, many of the requirements in QS were geared towards the production parts type company and it didn't make much sense for us to keep those around in the transition.
 
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