Outsourced process in ISO 45001

Timothy1

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What is considered an Outsourced process under ISO 45001? Confined space entry by a Contractor - this is already captured part of Contractor Management as part of 8142. Is it again need to captured part of Outsourced process 8143?

Under the Quality system, it is easy to identify outsourced process e.g. painting or plating etc which are sent out to the third parties. Under OHSMS what will be considered out-sourced process?

Appreciate your inputs

Tim
 
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John C. Abnet

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Good d;ay @Timothy1 ;
You are on the right track when you reference how it is addressed in your quality system. It is really no different in 45001. ISO 45001 clause 3.29 defines outsourcing as....
"make an arrangement where an external organization performs part of an organization's function or process."

So, if you are outsourcing your work that takes place within a confined space, ....
1- How does your contractor KNOW that s/he is entering a designated confined space in order to perform the work?
2- How does your contractor know the stipulations and safety measures needed in order to enter the confined space?


As you can see, this example is one specific reason for the existence of and certification to ISO 45001.

In regards to your question...."...Is it again need to captured ...". Your organization can decide how and where that information is "captured". I would certainly council against having requirements documented redundantly. If you feel they must be "captured" according to the corresponding clauses, then you can simply "point" from one to the other within your documentation to prevent repeating.

Hope this helps.
Be well.
 

Timothy1

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Good d;ay @Timothy1 ;
You are on the right track when you reference how it is addressed in your quality system. It is really no different in 45001. ISO 45001 clause 3.29 defines outsourcing as....
"make an arrangement where an external organization performs part of an organization's function or process."

So, if you are outsourcing your work that takes place within a confined space, ....
1- How does your contractor KNOW that s/he is entering a designated confined space in order to perform the work?
2- How does your contractor know the stipulations and safety measures needed in order to enter the confined space?


As you can see, this example is one specific reason for the existence of and certification to ISO 45001.

In regards to your question...."...Is it again need to captured ...". Your organization can decide how and where that information is "captured". I would certainly council against having requirements documented redundantly. If you feel they must be "captured" according to the corresponding clauses, then you can simply "point" from one to the other within your documentation to prevent repeating.

Hope this helps.
Be well.
Thanks John Appreciate your prompt reply
 
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