Passing CQA Exam - Passed on first attempt? Second? A Poll

How many of you who attempted CQA Exam passed exam

  • First attempt

    Votes: 4 100.0%
  • Second attempt

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Third attempt

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Never was able to pass :(

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    4
  • Poll closed .
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Quality-1

#1
Like to know:

How many of you who attempted CQA Exam passed on first attempt?
How many of you who attempted CQA Exam passed on second attempt?
How many of you who attempted CQA Exam passed never passed?
 
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#2
Why?

I have not taken the class (I'm RAB), but I have a question (or two). Why take the test? What are the advantages of CQA?
 
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David Hartman

#4
tracey said:
Ok, I'm really going to look bad here but what is a CQA? "? Quality Auditor" perhaps? :bonk:
Yes Tracey, it does stand for Certified Quality Auditor.

I passed on the first attempt, but I had 12 years of experience and multiple training sessions and seminars under my belt by the time Quality Auditor certification was made available (kinda showing my age again ;) )
 
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everest

#5
ASQ claims that CQA's have an advantage (slight) in salary requirements. I haven't seen it. I guess I'm on the other side of the distribution! :eek:
 

barb butrym

Quite Involved in Discussions
#6
In my neck of the woods CQA and CQE/T does add to the esteem/salary/opportunities. But then our ASQ is very well recognized and active around here.

The difference? CQA has been around longer. In the beginning RAB recognized it...then RAB got $$$$$$ hungry and wanted its own courses out there "control".

The CQA prep classes are geared for refreshing/preparing for the exam. The content isn't typically taught to you. Its a body of knowledge that is acquired and tested. A peer recognition. The tests are similiar to the CQE, but more subjective. You cannot typically look up the answer in your reference material. I found it harder than The CQE...but then when I took it, there were no prep courses offered, we were totally on our own (way back at exam #2).

I now teach a CQA refresher, as well as an IRCA Lead auditor course.

The RAB stuff is taught as they like it, and if you are quick, decisive and fairly smart, and can follow directions to a T ... you'll pass. I know of 4 people with ZERO Quality experience and Zero auditing experience scoring better than 95% in different classes/instructors. The more you know, the more you need to forget to answer stuff their way. Once you bring in a preconcieved notion, you get in trouble evaluating your evidence.

In my opinion, CQA is plenty for a companies internal audit training. A great base for the skill. The RAB/IRCA courses cover lots more standard specific information as well as regiment for stress control while auditing for a living....lots of stuff not required for process auditors.
 
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Raptorwild

#7
barb butrym said:
In my neck of the woods CQA and CQE/T does add to the esteem/salary/opportunities. But then our ASQ is very well recognized and active around here.

The difference? CQA has been around longer. In the beginning RAB recognized it...then RAB got $$$$$$ hungry and wanted its own courses out there "control".

The CQA prep classes are geared for refreshing/preparing for the exam. The content isn't typically taught to you. Its a body of knowledge that is acquired and tested. A peer recognition. The tests are similiar to the CQE, but more subjective. You cannot typically look up the answer in your reference material. I found it harder than The CQE...but then when I took it, there were no prep courses offered, we were totally on our own (way back at exam #2).

I now teach a CQA refresher, as well as an IRCA Lead auditor course.

The RAB stuff is taught as they like it, and if you are quick, decisive and fairly smart, and can follow directions to a T ... you'll pass. I know of 4 people with ZERO Quality experience and Zero auditing experience scoring better than 95% in different classes/instructors. The more you know, the more you need to forget to answer stuff their way. Once you bring in a preconcieved notion, you get in trouble evaluating your evidence.

In my opinion, CQA is plenty for a companies internal audit training. A great base for the skill. The RAB/IRCA courses cover lots more standard specific information as well as regiment for stress control while auditing for a living....lots of stuff not required for process auditors.
Hello Barb,

(The RAB stuff is taught as they like it, and if you are quick, decisive and fairly smart, and can follow directions to a T ... you'll pass.)

I am going to be taking the RAB AS9100 LA Course next week, I have already taken the RAB/IRCA QMS LA course last Feb. I am trying to break into this line of work from bottom, pretty much begging any Auditor who will listen to allow me to observe their audits. So far I have been on two and I really like what I have learned. I was wondering if you think it would benefit me to take a CQA course and the test to further my goal at becoming an asset to this profession? For some reason your name is so familiar, are you big in ASQ? Thanks Paula
 
#8
"we were totally on our own (way back at exam #2)."

Barb, Was that exam #2 for the CQE or the CQA?
 

barb butrym

Quite Involved in Discussions
#9
Am I big with ASQ.??..locally and regionally, but not nationally. Have gone to conferences, and even spoke at some. Wrote a paper or two....And I was traveling around teaching the QSLA for a while, but didn't get to Arizona. Are you a member of the audit division? Have done some work on their committies.

The networking from ASQ and the CQA is a good starting point....but getting in with a registrar is the best route. I would get the latest self study book on CQA from those guys in Indiana and make the decision from there. The push is on for AS auditors all of a sudden, I'd get my name out there ASAP if I was you. ...especially with the UKAS guys. The registrars like to train you to their "quirks" so don't worry about audit time, just show progress......

Do you really want to audit as a full time job? As much as I enjoy it.....I wouldn't do it full time.
 
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