Perry Johnson Registrars - TS 16949 Registrar Qualification

bpritts

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FYI/ Gossip

It is my understanding from a conversation with a prospective client that Perry Johnson registrars is making progress toward accreditation to conduct TS 16949 audits. This client (already contracted with PJR for QS 9000) is scheduled for a TS registration audit in January 06. This is to be a witness audit for PJR.
 
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Randy

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bpritts said:
FYI/ Gossip

It is my understanding from a conversation with a prospective client that Perry Johnson registrars is making progress toward accreditation to conduct TS 16949 audits. This client (already contracted with PJR for QS 9000) is scheduled for a TS registration audit in January 06. This is to be a witness audit for PJR.
What's your point?:confused:
 

bpritts

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In fact, I did search the Cove prior to posting; saw that this registrar was
somewhat controversial (to put it mildly); but didn't see any specifics about
their current status. So I thought I'd pass it on...

Brad
 

Wes Bucey

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Thanks for the clarification. I guessed that was your purpose (common gossip versus "rumor mongering") from the sub-head to your thread [FYI/ Gossip] and was somewhat taken aback by the residual "memory" about PJR from other posters.

In that regard, PJR serves as a wonderful example that one "never gets a second chance to make a good first impression!"
 

Sidney Vianna

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Did you experience Noah's flood first hand?

Randy said:
Those rumors are about as new as the news is of a flood during the time of Noah.
Randy, nice chatting with you yesterday.
Rumour has it that you are so old that, even though you were not born during Noah's flood, you helped a lot during the reconstruction efforts...:lmao:
 

Wes Bucey

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Sidney Vianna said:
Randy, nice chatting with you yesterday.
Rumour has it that you are so old that, even though you were not born during Noah's flood, you helped a lot during the reconstruction efforts...:lmao:
I, on the other hand, rode the other boat with the unicorns, elves, leprechauns, and other assorted "little folk.":biglaugh:

Whatever else he may have been - Randy was no slacker; he pulled his weight [;) ] right alongside me You'd have though[t he was in the Construction Battalion, not MP's.

Reading recent news from archeological digs - it is a certainty that beer was a normal working man's beverage (even backto some estimates of the datet of the Flood. So - - -:beerdive:
 
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QualityPhD

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Wondering how your client gets information...

bpritts said:
FYI/ Gossip

It is my understanding from a conversation with a prospective client that Perry Johnson registrars is making progress toward accreditation to conduct TS 16949 audits. This client (already contracted with PJR for QS 9000) is scheduled for a TS registration audit in January 06. This is to be a witness audit for PJR.
After reading through this thread several questions immediately come to mind:

First, would someone please explain how a client that is contracted through PJR for QS9000 would have the intimate knowledge of the accrediting bodies' plan to perform the TS accred. audit at PJR?

Second, what is the BIG deal about PJR becoming accredited for TS 16949? Could it be the lingering rumors about the "conflict of interest" that NO OTHER registrar has ever had to squash -- even though most perform dual consulting and auditing services?

.... just wondering....

Quality PhD
 

Wes Bucey

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QualityPhD said:
After reading through this thread several questions immediately come to mind:

First, would someone please explain how a client that is contracted through PJR for QS9000 would have the intimate knowledge of the accrediting bodies' plan to perform the TS accred. audit at PJR?

Second, what is the BIG deal about PJR becoming accredited for TS 16949? Could it be the lingering rumors about the "conflict of interest" that NO OTHER registrar has ever had to squash -- even though most perform dual consulting and auditing services?

.... just wondering....

Quality PhD
No mystery. If PJR wants to have an accreditation audit at a client's premises, it must get permission from that client. Ergo - this is how client "knows."

Suffice to say on the balance of your post:
You don't get a second chance to make a good first impression. Once you make a bad impression (as PJR has on more than one occasion), it is difficult to erase the stain and it will take a lot of rehabilitation to regain what others never lost.

The business of being a registrar depends on reputation. Many customers are leery of doing business with suppliers who have registrars with "questionable" reputations.

Some folks subscribe to the theory a "sinner" has to admit the sin and publicly repent in order to be forgiven. Not my feeling, I merely report it.

Thanks for the question. Perhaps it's time to revisit the PJR question and determine whether the folks who count (who buy registrar services or approve suppliers who are registered) consider the reputation of PJR to be "repaired."
 
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