PPAP and the IMDS (International Material Data System)

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Wes Bucey

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#52
Re: PPAP and the IMDS (International Material Data System) - What did I get myself in

Thanks for the response Wes. Actually my company had the same concern, so your post has cleared the doubts for me.
Thank YOU! It is extremely gratifying to know a six-year-old post still has value for someone.
 
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barro

#53
Re: PPAP and the IMDS (International Material Data System) - What did I get myself in

I agree with you as to the IMDS system not being very helpful for training. Or help for any thing! When I have tried to contact their help desk via E-mail I never get a response.
In mid July our company was migrated to the new release 8.0 and after the migration took effect we had issues with passwords to gain access. It took us about a month to get it rectified with very little help from HP help desk!
 
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Christina L

#54
Re: PPAP and the IMDS (International Material Data System) - What did I get myself in

I know Wes! Karma works in mysterious ways....LOL
 
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qaderrik

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Re: PPAP and the IMDS (International Material Data System) - What did I get myself in

I can support your occasional need for IMDS for a fixed price
 
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Jersok

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My company is currently planning to register on the IMDS, so I haven't had any experience in filling out the MDS and am still trying to familiarize myself with the system. So my question is probably pretty basic but I hope someone can share their experience. In filling out the components, since our products are made from materials from other suppliers, the suppliers will need to fill out their materials as well right? What if the suppliers refuse to fill out the MDS? Should we fill it out for them?
 
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chandaraasekar

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This is a method of declaring hazardous substance for a salable part part number. This is just a excel sheet, During PPAP send you part for IMDS testing & elemental chemistry is analysed & % Vs Part weight is calculated & declared in this free portal.Later the IMDS engineer consolidates & calculates the total hazardous substance present inside the final part.
 
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chandaraasekar

#59
Similarly, the European Union speaks in the language REACH.
some countries says them HEAVY METAL & 4T etc.
 

Kales Veggie

People: The Vital Few
#60
My company is currently planning to register on the IMDS, so I haven't had any experience in filling out the MDS and am still trying to familiarize myself with the system. So my question is probably pretty basic but I hope someone can share their experience. In filling out the components, since our products are made from materials from other suppliers, the suppliers will need to fill out their materials as well right? What if the suppliers refuse to fill out the MDS? Should we fill it out for them?
I would start with watching the IMDS published videos and study the two presentations about creating a material and creating a component.

Yes, suppliers must enter the component / material information that they sell to you. The MDS follows the supply chain. Your suppliers must enter the information for a material in the cured state. Your company must make this a requirement to do business with you. (terms and condition).

If the suppliers refuse (breach of contract?), you should consider finding another supplier, but in the end you can enter the information they provide you (when you receive certificate of analysis or evidence that the materials meet specifications), but you are taking a risk here, but sometimes it is necessary.

Also, start early in the APQP process collecting the information.

If your product contains electronics or a wire harness, please seriously consider using recommendations 019 and flat BOM approach. Some OEMs require using this approach.

Before you start, find out what the customer requirements are for IMDS.

Lastly, start early, because fixing MDS issues one week before PPAP due date, will be a huge headache.
 
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