We have a very special situation here, we receive spot buys from our customer, and we HAVE TO (and need to) produce and send material without having a Blanket PO, but we already submitted a PPAP for every part number. Now, we need to get the material from OUR suppliers PPAP'ed, but, because there is no blanket PO, they say they won't submit any PPAP for spot buys, that they need a blanket PO to begin PPAP process. Is there any way to make the suppliers to submit us the PPAP of there is any clause we can use to make exceptions? material not approved thru PPAP process?
PPAP for Spot Buys from our customer
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Are you saying that you supply material to your customer without a purchase order? What does "blanket" have to do with it? If you have no PO from your customer, you should be refusing to produce and ship.mjoakin said:
Also, what prevents you from issuing a PO to your supplier?
Refuse to produce? We'll die. That's why I said it was a "very special situation". First, our customer send us a PO with a certain quantity to meet, we process it and we send the product. Now, if we receive a Spot Buy from our customer (a PO) for 1000 parts, we will buy material/components to produce only 1000 parts, so we send a PO to each supplier to cover ONLY that requirement, so this PO is considered a spot buy, and the suppliers says they won't submit a PPAP for a spot buy.
No, is not like that. Our final product is PPAP approved, we did the APQP, customer came to our plant and approved the warrant, that part is Ok. The problem now is with our suppliers, the one who send us material and components to build our final product, they don't want to submit us a PPAP, because the spot buy is not considered as regular production.
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Agreement with JSW05!
Unbelievably I am agreeing with JSW05. PPAP applies to the part and the process not to a specific order. As long as the part conforms with the warrant and the process and supplied materials are the same then there is no need for another PPAP.mjoakin said:
When we ran the first pieces for the PPAP, all the materials were received from the customer itself, now that we are PPAP approved, our customer want us to buy our own material from their suppliers. So, now I turn to the suppliers and ask them for material and a PPAP, and they say they won't submit PPAP because there is no release or blanket PO, only a spot buy.
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Bill Ryan - 2007
I'd chime in but I can't add anything to the questions JSW has posed. I agree, the answer (or recommendation) is right around the corner.
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