Pre-assessment to Final Audit - Is there a 90 day requirement?

[Sidney Vianna]

Is timing a TS thing Sid?

I am traveling and don't have the TS rules book with me right now, but, if I am not mistaken, the IATF has a ruling concerning timing for the preliminary assessment during a TS-16949 certification program.

 

[Mustang]

I am traveling and don't have the TS rules book with me right now, but, if I am not mistaken, the IATF has a ruling concerning timing for the preliminary assessment during a TS-16949 certification program.

I found it in Annex 1, section 2 "Audit Planning" (flowchart). Under "Site Audit Days Calculation" in "What" column it states "The stage 2 site audit shall be completed within a 90 days period from the approval of readiness review".

it's page 15 in my little book...

 

[Randy]

Thanks there Mustang.

But the again the OP was concerned with a 14K audit to begin with.

 

[Mustang]

Thanks there Mustang.

But the again the OP was concerned with a 14K audit to begin with.

You're welcome Randy, I was just helping Sid out.

I have found that sometimes auditors try to apply the TS rules book to all standards... they get confused, I think.

I concur with the suggestions to check the contract/agreement with the CB as the first line of defense.

 

[Marc]

....shall be completed within a 90 days period from the approval of readiness review".

Key word here is 'within'. That makes sense to me.

 

[Sidney Vianna]

Key word here is 'within'. That makes sense to me.

And, if this is the source for the external auditor's words which originated the first post of this thread, the auditor is really confused because he said he would come AFTER 90 days.

 

[qualitychic]

Re: Pre-assessment to Final Audit time

Personally, 90 days (1/4th of a year or 3 months or 12 weeks, depending upon how you want to look at it) seems like a long time between preassesment and final assessment audit. Most of what I have seen have been 3 to 6 weeks, depending upon:
1. What had to be done, and
2. The registrar's schedule.

I completely agree with Marc. There's no standard that would dictate how many days between pre-assessment to registration audit. It's all depending on the readiness of your company. With that said, if your company was deemed ready after the pre-assessment audit, I don't see a reason why you can't have a registration audit the following day (but that's just hypothetically speaking).