Pre-Audit for New Supplier Qualification

KCIPOH

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#1
Hello Cove members,

We are seeking for suitable supplier to purchase of products for our production usage in the long run.
1. How to conduct a pre-audit to evaluate and qualify a new supplier?
2. What question i should ask during the pre-audit process?
3. Any standard format for pre-audit for reference?
4. Is there a difference in the pre-audit format for a certified ISO9001
supplier and a non-certified ISO 9001 supplier?

Inputs needed :confused:
 
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Chennaiite

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#2
Hello Cove members,

We are seeking for suitable supplier to purchase of products for our production usage in the long run.
1. How to conduct a pre-audit to evaluate and qualify a new supplier?
2. What question i should ask during the pre-audit process?
3. Any standard format for pre-audit for reference?
4. Is there a difference in the pre-audit format for a certified ISO9001
supplier and a non-certified ISO 9001 supplier?

Inputs needed :confused:
The Simplest thing you can do is to evaluate their QMS with reference to ISO9001.
I hope indicators of capacity, logistics, technology, financial status are also considered for supplier qualification.
 

Jen Kirley

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#3
Good day KCIPOH,

I agree with Chennaiite's advice to audit to the basics of the standard. Remember that the supplier has the right to make their system as they please, as long as it is compliant to the standard.

That said, you are interested in purchasing their product and/or service, so your perspective while auditing is how well you believe they will provide you with what you require while they perform in the system you observe. For example: If you need cleanliness, pay attention to how they manage that. If special packaging or delivery interests you, inquire how your needs will be understood and met. Effective communications is very important; how well will they receive and accurately respond to your requests for changes?

I hope this helps!
 

qusys

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#4
Hello Cove members,

We are seeking for suitable supplier to purchase of products for our production usage in the long run.
1. How to conduct a pre-audit to evaluate and qualify a new supplier?
2. What question i should ask during the pre-audit process?
3. Any standard format for pre-audit for reference?
4. Is there a difference in the pre-audit format for a certified ISO9001
supplier and a non-certified ISO 9001 supplier?

Inputs needed :confused:
Hi,
in addition of what the other Covers said,I would like to suggest their business continuity in case of problems and how they manage the risk.In brief you should be sure that they are able to provide the product in quality and in time.
Consider to send them in advance a sort of pre-questionairre so that they can evaluate themselves with a score.:bigwave:
 

KCIPOH

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#5
Hello Cove members,

Thanks for your advice but i would like any members to provide me a sample of your previous supplier qualification pre-audit questionnaire for me as reference?

Thank you :)
 

qusys

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#6
Hello Cove members,

Thanks for your advice but i would like any members to provide me a sample of your previous supplier qualification pre-audit questionnaire for me as reference?

Thank you :)
I made a research in the forum post attachment.
here is the link:
http://elsmar.com/Forums/fileslist....by=filename&pageamt=1&criteria=supplier+audit

check the first example.
My suggestion is to create a process for this including documentation, based upon your need vs the supplier.
:bigwave:
 
J

johnny xu

#8
Hello Cove members,

We are seeking for suitable supplier to purchase of products for our production usage in the long run.
1. How to conduct a pre-audit to evaluate and qualify a new supplier?
2. What question i should ask during the pre-audit process?
3. Any standard format for pre-audit for reference?
4. Is there a difference in the pre-audit format for a certified ISO9001
supplier and a non-certified ISO 9001 supplier?

Inputs needed :confused:
Basically , survey and assess positional supplier in some aspect of Quality, cost , delivery.
Sometimes you shall be together with technical, quality persons.

Some questions shall be asked following ISO9001 standard. You shall have your audit criteria to evaluate it if supplier without ISO9001 certification.

Generally , you can confirm it whether has the similar product series , design and technical capacity, lab.& equipments, quality awareness and even project development deliverable etc.,

Follow your heart, you have several expensive to handle it eventually:magic:
 

Big Jim

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#9
Hello Cove members,

We are seeking for suitable supplier to purchase of products for our production usage in the long run.
1. How to conduct a pre-audit to evaluate and qualify a new supplier?
2. What question i should ask during the pre-audit process?
3. Any standard format for pre-audit for reference?
4. Is there a difference in the pre-audit format for a certified ISO9001
supplier and a non-certified ISO 9001 supplier?

Inputs needed :confused:
Pre-audit?

Why not just audit?

Pre-audit doesn't seem to have a clear definition. Several activities might be considered a "pre-audit", including an internal audit, a gap analysis, a pre-assessment, and a stage 1 audit.

What do you have in mind when you ask about a pre-audit?
 

Jim Wynne

Staff member
Admin
#10
Pre-audit?

Why not just audit?

Pre-audit doesn't seem to have a clear definition. Several activities might be considered a "pre-audit", including an internal audit, a gap analysis, a pre-assessment, and a stage 1 audit.

What do you have in mind when you ask about a pre-audit?
I agree that there is probably no point in a pre-audit, unless it's just a visit to meet people and tour the supplier's operation. Even then, it's probably not worth doing. In fact, I'm not sure that audits of suppliers are worth doing at all, ever, unless in very extraordinary circumstances. A large company I worked for had a very comprehensive supplier qualification audit process, and I asked its owner about correlation between audit results and supplier performance. There was none, and it was believed that the process was mostly useless in making predictions. It was done because some higher-up said it had to be done.
 
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