Preventative Action vs. Corrective Action - ISO 9001

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I am in a discussion with different parties on how we address these two elements in the standard. One opinion is that they are both relatively the same and that preventive action can follow corrective action and so their use of common means to achieve either is acceptable. The other thought is preventive is not part of corrective action because the standard references pre-considerations in section 8.5.3. Because of wording such as "eliminate the causes of potential nonconformities" and "prevent their occurrence" it means consider the possibility of non-conformances. Any ideas or thoughts on this?
 
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Re: ISO 9000 Preventative vs. corrective action

QE Bob said:
I am in a discussion with different parties on how we address these two elements in the standard. One opinion is that they are both relatively the same and that preventive action can follow corrective action and so their use of common means to achieve either is acceptable. The other thought is preventive is not part of corrective action because the standard references pre-considerations in section 8.5.3. Because of wording such as "eliminate the causes of potential nonconformities" and "prevent their occurrence" it means consider the possibility of non-conformances. Any ideas or thoughts on this?
Please perform a search of this topic. This has been debated here in the cove for a long time. And I really don't think you are going to get many responses on the CA/PA.:frust:

I will make it easy for you:

Corrective and Preventive Action
 
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Re: ISO 9000 Preventative vs. corrective action

Corrective actions prevent recurrence whereas preventive actions prevent occurrence. Do not confuse “preventive action” with “recurrence prevention”. Preventive action is proactive, recurrence prevention is reactive.

You can use the same problem solving process/tools in either case.

Check (and search) this forum for a million discussions on this subject:

http://elsmar.com/Forums/forumdisplay.php?f=40
 
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preetham - 2007

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Re: ISO 9000 Preventative vs. corrective action

QE Bob said:
I am in a discussion with different parties on how we address these two elements in the standard. One opinion is that they are both relatively the same and that preventive action can follow corrective action and so their use of common means to achieve either is acceptable. The other thought is preventive is not part of corrective action because the standard references pre-considerations in section 8.5.3. Because of wording such as "eliminate the causes of potential nonconformities" and "prevent their occurrence" it means consider the possibility of non-conformances. Any ideas or thoughts on this?
The corrective action is to correct the existing non conformance

And the preventive action is to prevent the non conformance happening once again for the futere batch
 
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Re: ISO 9000 Preventative vs. corrective action

preetham said:
The corrective action is to correct the existing non conformance

And the preventive action is to prevent the non conformance happening once again for the futere batch
Incorrect.


Do not confuse “preventive action” with “recurrence prevention”.
 
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BadgerMan

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Re: ISO 9000 Preventative vs. corrective action

preetham said:
could you please differentiate between the prevntive & recuurence please
Preventive actions prevent occurrence whereas corrective actions prevent recurrence.

Do not confuse “preventive action” with “recurrence prevention”.

Preventive action is proactive, recurrence prevention is reactive.

Preventive action prevents something from happening. Corrective action prevents something from happening again.
 
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QE Bob

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Re: ISO 9000 Preventative vs. corrective action

Thanks for the heads up on the prior post's I have been reading through and have found them to interesting and helpfull. One more favor, how do I kill this post so it will stop nay more discussion. As you can tell I am new to this posting thing.

Thanks again
 
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