Definition Preventive Action - Definition - How does YOUR organization define PA?

Hershal

Metrologist-Auditor
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#1
First, let's get real.....

This subject applies across the full range.....

ABs: All organizations recognized as operating under ISO/IEC 17011 and 17021.....

ACCREDITATION: Organizations accredited under ANS/ISO/IEC 17025, ISO/IEC 17020, ISO Guide 65, ISO 9001 Registrars, and others.....

ORGANIZATIONS: Registered organizations under 9K, TS-16949, TL-9000, etc., etc.

Now the question and discussion.........

How does YOUR organization define Preventive Action, and in particular with respect to the applicable standard(s) you operate under?

Does your policy/procedure include training, calibration, preventive maintenance, internal audit, management review, and other similar provisions of the applicable standard(s)?

Does your recognition organizations (MRA)/AB/Registrar allow those definition(s) or even encourage those inclusions?

Observations, thoughts, suggestions are welcome and encouraged!
 
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RoxaneB

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Re: Definition of PA.......

I thought we had discussed such a concept already here in the Cove, but perhaps not necessarily in one particular thread.

When I was based at a site - now I've joined the Dark Side known as Corporate - our PA included input from the items you mentioned, 5S, Routine Equipment Care, and responses to adverse trends within our indicators and measurements.

It was not only encouraged by our Registrar's Auditors, but it was also applauded and often cited as an example for other clients (without mentioning our name, of course!).
 
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Hurgate

#3
Re: Definition of PA.......

Any chance of someone reviewing my Business Improvement procedure which I hope covers CI,CA,PA and Non Conformity of Product for constructive feedback? Small consultancy service <15 staff. ITs attached under thread Any examples of procedures for a small recruitment company - thank you!
 

Raffy

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Re: Definition of PA - How does YOUR organization define Preventive Action?

In our organization we define Preventive Action as a proactive approach taken to eliminate the potential occurrence of a nonconformance in order to prevent it from initially happening. Part of the preventive action is updating the FMEA, Control Plan, Training or Orientation to the concerned personnel, internal audit and management review.
Our external auditor(s) comment that our definition of Prevention of recurrence and corrective action is one and the same.
Raffy
 
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Qualqueen

#7
Re: Definition of PA.......

I thought we had discussed such a concept already here in the Cove, but perhaps not necessarily in one particular thread.

When I was based at a site - now I've joined the Dark Side known as Corporate - our PA included input from the items you mentioned, 5S, Routine Equipment Care, and responses to adverse trends within our indicators and measurements.

It was not only encouraged by our Registrar's Auditors, but it was also applauded and often cited as an example for other clients (without mentioning our name, of course!).
I've read a few threads of yours where you mention 5S but has there ever been a discussion started on this.I did google it and found this link to be informative

http://5s.labelprinter.com/index.php

http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=27484&highlight=palmer
http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=29977&highlight=palmer

Just found these 2 links :agree1:
 
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