Print (Drawing) Bubble Techniques

Michael_M

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After using Fox-it for about 1 month, I have finally settled on 'how to' and will post the instructions as it may help.

I open up the PDF I am going to bubble.

Under the 'comments' menu (the view I use), I go to 'typewriter/typewriter' click on the print somewhere and type my first number (usually use 10 for size purposes, you will see why in a second).

I set my font and font size to be appropriate to the size of the print.

In comments menu, I select 'drawing/oval' and draw an oval around the 10 I just put down. I then right mouse click the oval and select 'properties' and change the color to 'light grey' and 'thickness' to 1.

I will move the oval around and line it up to the number correctly so it looks right.

I then go to the 'tools' menu and select 'hand tool'--this allows me to move around the PDF since I am zoomed in. I click the number (or the oval) and then holding the Ctrl button, click the oval (or number). This selects both the number and the oval.

I then hit 'Ctrl-C' to copy. I put my 'hand tool' in the center of the number and the icon changes to a small arrow. Holding down the left mouse I can drag the number and circle to the point on the print I want.

I then hit 'Ctrl-V' (paste) and repeat this process until I have the print bubbled. I make one paste then move it as this leaves both number and oval selected for easy moving.

Now, I can go to the number and double click (left mouse). The 10 becomes highlighted and I can put whatever number I want. I repeat this till the entire print is bubbled.

After the print is done, I save.

This whole process is allot quicker to do than to type out but since it took me a bit to figure out I thought I would post these instructions.
 
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qcnewcomer

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I feel like I'm in way over my head! I am an industrial distributor with a new customer that is asking for a completion of a full 1st article inspection (all dimensions including reference dimensions & all print notes), a bubbled drawing and CofC with each shipment. They told me I only have to submit the bubbled drawing on the first shipment. They are purchasing standard commodity items like an oring or ball valve.

They have submitted no drawing and told me I need to do the bubbled drawing, so I need to first locate drawings of the items I will sell them. Then bubble it correctly for dimensions, material, etc. Do I then just complete the sample of the 1st article of inspection tied to all numbers on the bubble drawings?
 

Wes Bucey

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#23
I feel like I'm in way over my head! I am an industrial distributor with a new customer that is asking for a completion of a full 1st article inspection (all dimensions including reference dimensions & all print notes), a bubbled drawing and CofC with each shipment. They told me I only have to submit the bubbled drawing on the first shipment. They are purchasing standard commodity items like an oring or ball valve.

They have submitted no drawing and told me I need to do the bubbled drawing, so I need to first locate drawings of the items I will sell them. Then bubble it correctly for dimensions, material, etc. Do I then just complete the sample of the 1st article of inspection tied to all numbers on the bubble drawings?
This is a VERY UNUSUAL request for off-the-shelf items. These quality documents are normally ONLY requested for custom-made products to a customer's design.

My advice is to confirm this request with a phone call. Odds are it is an error on either the purchasing clerk's part by including this request with a purchase order for a commodity or your own error in missing some clause in the boiler plate of the purchase order indicating these requirements are ONLY for customer-designed components or products.

The CofC (Certificate of Conformance) request is boilerplate and you really need to ascertain EXACTLY what the customer means by this. In some cases, a CofC can merely be a one line statement on a shipping document stating, "This shipment conforms to all the requirements listed in the referenced purchase order."

In other cases, a customer may mean a requirement for a Certificate of Analysis, stating a sample of the product has been tested by a competent entity for chemical content and physical properties, listing those findings and certifies that the sampling was done according to a Standard sampling formula.
 
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qcnewcomer

#24
I agree it's highly unusual. I've been in this industry for 30 years and never had to do this unless a customer provided a print.

Unfortunately, I have confirmed this was a phone call. The customer told me they hold distributors to the same 'standards' as a manufacturer of a customer to print part. I was told by QC that I needed to do a bubble drawing of the 15 parts I would be supplying (and acted like I was a dope to even ask what he wanted) and then told me to print out their supplier manual and comply with section 6.2 Certificate of Conformance Process.
I'm thinking I should just hire someone to bubble the drawings.

We do CofC's all the time and simply certify that the product meets the IFI or ASTM. This customer has their own form in their 'supplier portal' and we have to use their form. I complete & submit with the bubbled drawing and 1st article of inspection.
 

Wes Bucey

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#25
I agree it's highly unusual. I've been in this industry for 30 years and never had to do this unless a customer provided a print.

Unfortunately, I have confirmed this was a phone call. The customer told me they
hold distributors to the same 'standards' as a manufacturer of a customer to print part. I was told by QC that I needed to do a bubble drawing of the 15 parts I would be supplying (and acted like I was a dope to even ask what he wanted) and then told me to print out their supplier manual and comply with section 6.2 Certificate of Conformance Process.
I'm thinking I should just hire someone to bubble the drawings.

We do CofC's all the time and simply certify that the product meets the IFI or ASTM. This customer has their own form in their 'supplier portal' and we have to use their form. I complete & submit with the bubbled drawing and 1st article of inspection.
I hope you have enough profit built in to the product to cover the cost of doing this. If not, the choice would be to charge extra or cancel the sale.

One of my consulting clients knuckled under to a "big customer" asking for "extras." When we did a cost analysis, it turned out my client was effectively wrapping a one dollar bill around every piece he gave to the customer because his costs for producing the part and complying with the customer's requests were one dollar more than his gross sale price per piece. ;);)Maybe he expected to make it up in volume!:bonk::bonk:
 
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Atom_Ant

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I use foxit reader (portable version) all the time on personal projects, it is a great tool.

I know the OP mentioned they did not want costly software, but at work we use Discus to bubble prints that come from customers as PDFs. The character recognition, FAI formatted report output, and bubbling options are really great. I would recommend it if it is within the means of the quality department.
 
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Mr.Happy

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I feel like I'm in way over my head! I am an industrial distributor with a new customer that is asking for a completion of a full 1st article inspection (all dimensions including reference dimensions & all print notes), a bubbled drawing and CofC with each shipment. They told me I only have to submit the bubbled drawing on the first shipment. They are purchasing standard commodity items like an oring or ball valve.

They have submitted no drawing and told me I need to do the bubbled drawing, so I need to first locate drawings of the items I will sell them. Then bubble it correctly for dimensions, material, etc. Do I then just complete the sample of the 1st article of inspection tied to all numbers on the bubble drawings?
For some more information please see attachment for submitting certificates.
Hope this will be of any help.



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tabort

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Thought I'd add something here. I had also been looking for a software solution to balloon prints electronic to reduce the amount of printing and scanning needed when ballooning on hard copies.

I had previously used Adobe Acrobat Pro but that software is just too expensive for one seat and has a lot of functions that is not needed for the simple purpose of basic commenting/annotating/signing etc.

After much comparison between what's available now, I settled for Nitro PDF Pro. It's a relatively new Adobe alternative and the software still has a lot of kinks to iron out. However, it costs less than Adobe (at the time I bought but I think the price went up) and for what it can do so far it is well worth it.

One of the downside to it is though that I have to combine the functions of the Adobe Reader X in order to make it work for me. That and combined with Combinumerals font type, thanks to someone on this forum, I have been able to balloon my print efficiently and save the trees at the same time! :D
cywork,

I'm trying to get Combinumerals to work but so far no luck. It works just fine in Word but when I try to type in Acrobat, it gives me a lefthand semi-circle on each number. Did you have to do anything special to get it to work in Acrobat?

TT
 
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