Re: A3 vs 8D
Hello Shawn,
There is no "right" way. Whatever works best for you and your organization.
Global 8D is a process developed by Ford, A3 is a process developed by Toyota I believe. Your choice. However, when the customer requires a particular problem solving format, you must use it. Please search the Forums for additional information.
Here are 8D attachments.
Here are A3 attachments.
Hope this helps.
Stijloor.
Hello Shawn,
There is no "right" way. Whatever works best for you and your organization.
Global 8D is a process developed by Ford, A3 is a process developed by Toyota I believe. Your choice. However, when the customer requires a particular problem solving format, you must use it. Please search the Forums for additional information.
Here are 8D attachments.
Here are A3 attachments.
Hope this helps.
Stijloor.
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Re: A3 vs 8D
Welcome, Shawn. Unless there's a specific format required by a customer, there is no universal "right way." Whatever works for your company is the right way. I favor the (broken link removed) strategy.
Welcome, Shawn. Unless there's a specific format required by a customer, there is no universal "right way." Whatever works for your company is the right way. I favor the (broken link removed) strategy.
I like the A3 as it is the best way IMO to publish the information.
It is not really a problem solving method but rather a method of publishing the results.
It is not really a problem solving method but rather a method of publishing the results.
yes the OP can try a search of this site as we ahve covered this subject before...
but briefly - A3 is a size of paper, not a method. Toyota - and Honda -prefers to report out on a single piece of paper, but it needs to be a large piece of paper. generally you document the problem solving activity in the format of PDCA (Plan Do Check Act) with the inclusion of a "situation analysis" or "current state" section. and use lots of drawings, few words. Depending on the type of project or event or analysis performed the section headings change. there are no 'rules' for that so there is no reason that you can't use the 8D steps as your sections on the A3 report.
I personally prefer the 8D steps as headers than PDCA for problem solving - they really are the same thing there is just more detail and specificity in the 8D steps so they translate well and help ensure that the critical steps that are typically forgotten (containment, validation, controls to prevent recurrence) aren't forgotten by the proejct team...
Toyota A3 Problem Solving Format
"Bumping" an old thread...
I found this and figured I'd throw it in. Looks to be the SOS (my opinion).
Step 0: Identify a problem or need
Step 1: Conduct research to understand the current situation
Step 2: Conduct root cause analysis
Step 3: Devise countermeasures to address root causes
Step 4: Develop a target state
Step 5: Create an implementation plan
Step 6: Develop a follow-up plan with predicted outcomes
The results of steps 0-6 can be recorded on an A3 report. Click here to download an MS Word template of an A3 Report.
Step 7: Discuss plans with all affected parties
Step 8: Obtain approval for implementation
Step 9: Implement plans
Step 10: Evaluate the results
Note that the A3 process is rooted in the more basic PDCA cycle. Steps 1-8 are the Plan step (with step 5 planning the Do step and step 6 planning the Check step). Step 9 is the Do step, and step 10 is the Check step. Based on the evaluation, another problem may be identified and the A3 process starts again (Act).
And:
"Bumping" an old thread...
I found this and figured I'd throw it in. Looks to be the SOS (my opinion).
Step 0: Identify a problem or need
Step 1: Conduct research to understand the current situation
Step 2: Conduct root cause analysis
Step 3: Devise countermeasures to address root causes
Step 4: Develop a target state
Step 5: Create an implementation plan
Step 6: Develop a follow-up plan with predicted outcomes
The results of steps 0-6 can be recorded on an A3 report. Click here to download an MS Word template of an A3 Report.
Step 7: Discuss plans with all affected parties
Step 8: Obtain approval for implementation
Step 9: Implement plans
Step 10: Evaluate the results
Note that the A3 process is rooted in the more basic PDCA cycle. Steps 1-8 are the Plan step (with step 5 planning the Do step and step 6 planning the Check step). Step 9 is the Do step, and step 10 is the Check step. Based on the evaluation, another problem may be identified and the A3 process starts again (Act).
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