Problem with IATF 16949 Clause 7.2.3 Requirements (Internal Auditor Competency)

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7.2.3 Internal auditor competency
[…]
Quality management system auditors, manufacturing process auditors, and product auditors shall all be able to demonstrate the following minimum competencies:
a) understanding of the automotive process approach for auditing, including risk-based thinking;
b) understanding of applicable customer-specific requirements;
c) understanding of applicable ISO 9001 and IATF 16949 requirements related to the scope of the audit;
d) understanding of applicable core tools
e) understanding how to plan, conduct, report and close out audit findings
[…]


I’m not sure that it should be required for manufacturing process auditors to have knowledge in scope of ISO 9001 and IATF 16949 requirements.

But more important – Why product auditors have to know all above? It is not closely related to their duties. A lot of the product auditors, I know, hasn’t such competencies.
 
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Re: Problem with 7.2.3 requirements (Internal auditor competency)

the standard does add the modifier "applicable"
I think this makes sense that the process auditors understand what the standards say about process requirements and Customer specific requirements...

can you provide a specific example of concern with this requirement? i.e. what roles do your process auditors have and what conflicts you see with the standard's requirement?
 
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