Process Audit recommendation within ISO TS 16949? Does it exist like in VDA?

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jrubio

#1
Does it exist a Process Audit recommendation within ISO TS?

When we were under VDA norm, VDA issued manuals to carry on the process Audit and Product Audit, my question is if there are something similar in ISO TS 16949.

I ask that because we are following auditing this proccess under VDA manual due to we have not seen any manual or recomendation from IATF.

Your help would be much appreciated.

Cheers!
 
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preetham - 2007

#3
Hi Javier,
In TS 16949 manual also you will find the process audit & product audit.
the basic requirements and the procedure will be same.
 
J

jrubio

#4
What do you mean manual?

manual :

The norm?

The TS Rules?

The TS Guide?

Which edition, please advise.
 

Howard Atkins

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#5
jrubio said:
manual :

The norm?

The TS Rules?

The TS Guide?

Which edition, please advise.
I will be interested to see as well.
preetham-Do you means that the standard says you must audit. This we all know and is no help to the question
 
R

ralphsulser

#6
I would guess he means the actual TS16949:2002 Specification which requires system, process, and product audits.
 

Howard Atkins

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ralphsulser said:
I would guess he means the actual TS16949:2002 Specification which requires system, process, and product audits.
But not really any help.
All audits should be process audits. The specific requirement of TS is that all manufacturing processes will be audited. In the past it was possible to skip some produiction processes.
I have in the past given VDA 6.3 as an example
Search in the auditing forum http://elsmar.com/Forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22 for process and there is plenty there.
Please see if this helps and then come back.
 
J

jrubio

#8
What Howard (I guess) and I state is:

Than before in VDA there was a methoth proposed to audit procceses, other methoth to audit product.

VDA sold books which explained how to do it, but now wiith TS is does not exist any recomendation TO DO IT.
 
C

cheahga

#9
Hi Jrubio,

Try reading AIAG ISO/ TS 16949: 2002 implementation guide, CQI-7, where in page 23 - 28, it does tell you ways in implementing the process & product audit.:bigwave:

Hope this help.

bye
 
M

Myriam

#10
Javier,

I think that for TS16949 you still can use the VDA process audit method. TS16949 does not have one method to perform these kind of audits. It is up to you (and what your cutsomer wants you to do), to decied which method to be followed.

Myriam
 
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