Process Auditing for our TS system - Please help and review if you would be so kind

I

IEGeek - 2006

#1
I am going to try and post this for some feedback on Process Auditing for our TS system. I have created an interactive PDF file, so that any idio---person in our organization assigned to the audit team can complete this.

Please let me know your thoughts comments or suggestions. Be kind this is a first pass

Thanks a million :thanx:
 

Attachments

Elsmar Forum Sponsor

Howard Atkins

Forum Administrator
Staff member
Admin
#2
I think that it is great but you will need to do a lot of training for the use.

As I see it everything is there but hidden and you would only know it by training e.g. I assume that in resources the intention is also to check the calibration status, it could easily be missed. Maybe you should add some more specifics. This would also help to show that you have covered these areas.

:applause:
 
I

IEGeek - 2006

#3
Thanks for the input, it does require a lot of training, but that is what we need. In the past it has all been check lists and no detail was ever provided, I am trying to get people to give input. Not just yes or no.
 
P

Paul Mc

#4
Internal auditing to the TS "Process approach", this is something we're trying to get our heads around:
1.we're looking to break our company down into "processes", how did you define yours?
2.then from the defined processes, develope a matrix with processes down one side and the TS elements across the top, x-ing those applicable for each process(thus ensuring that no elements have been missed using this process approach)

has anyone used this methodoly before to audit?
any comments/other ideas?
 
I

IEGeek - 2006

#5
That might possibly work, however to define your processes "be the pellet" so to speak. How does your company operate. Do customers call you to place an order? Then trace it from that.

Here is a sample of our process flow

Let me know your thoughts
 

Attachments

Howard Atkins

Forum Administrator
Staff member
Admin
#6
Bob Ablondi said:
You should review the ISO 544 Standard which identifies the Plan-Do-Act methods to do process audits. This is required by the Registrar I do audits for.
Please can you check your reference as ISO 544 is the following standard
"Welding consumables -- Technical delivery conditions for welding filler materials -- Type of product, dimensions, tolerances and markings"
 

Jim Wynne

Staff member
Admin
#7
IEGeek said:
Thanks for the input, it does require a lot of training, but that is what we need. In the past it has all been check lists and no detail was ever provided, I am trying to get people to give input. Not just yes or no.
Good for you! :applause:Make people actually think about what they're doing, and put it into words. Of course training is necessary, if it weren't you wouldn't need to design a form. I think your form is an excellent starting point, without knowing more about what you're doing specifically. If people don't understand the requirements and expectations of process auditing, they shouldn't be allowed to conduct audits.
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
P System Audit Approach - Application of VDA 6.3 - Process Auditing VDA Standards - Germany's Automotive Standards 2
B Process Approach to Auditing Quality Management System Internal Auditing 12
A Process Approach to Auditing Undocumented Processes at the System Level Internal Auditing 7
H Auditing - System Approach and Process Approach Differences? General Auditing Discussions 20
T Auditing Process and System to TS 16949 - SMMT Industry General Auditing Discussions 7
S Process and system auditing - numerical score methods General Auditing Discussions 3
tony s What is the automotive process approach for auditing? IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 2
J Recomended Values - Auditing process in a supplier IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 18
P Auditing "process validation" process 21 CFR Part 820 - US FDA Quality System Regulations (QSR) 2
A Suggestions for a UK based course in Process Auditing wanted Training - Internal, External, Online and Distance Learning 2
A Best Method of Auditing an Installation Process at a client job-site ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 4
T Where in the ISO 9001 standard it asks for process based auditing? Process Audits and Layered Process Audits 6
K Auditing New Product Introduction Process General Auditing Discussions 21
L Stability of the Process vs Improvement during Auditing General Auditing Discussions 8
K Process Auditing Clause 7.3 Design and Development Internal Auditing 11
R On Auditing Internal Audit Process - How Independence can be Established Internal Auditing 4
G The future of the Process Approach to Auditing General Auditing Discussions 10
R Auditing a process outside the realm of the formal Internal Audit ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 9
M Process Auditing in a Distribution Company Process Audits and Layered Process Audits 3
M Auditing the Internal Audit Process - 8.2.2 General Auditing Discussions 2
J Auditing the Internal Auditing Process - Audit Nonconformance General Auditing Discussions 3
J Help in Process Auditing - Turtle Diagram Examples Internal Auditing 2
K The Value of Turtle Diagrams in Process Auditing Internal Auditing 27
V Relevance of Process Based Auditing (PEAR) to regulated industry. US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 3
Q Auditing Management Review - Who audits the management review process? IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 5
J Auditing the Budgeting Process (ISO 9001) General Auditing Discussions 13
A Auditing sufficiency of documented quality objectives vs the real process Internal Auditing 14
B Internal Auditing of a Process or Workplace? OHSAS 18001 Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 12
A Green Belt Project for Improving Internal Process Auditing and Metrics Six Sigma 5
K Auditing the Internal Vendor (Supplier) Management Process Supplier Quality Assurance and other Supplier Issues 2
P Auditing Process Classics - I am planning to take CQA exam Professional Certifications and Degrees 5
T Can an Internal Auditor be involved in the process they are auditing? Internal Auditing 8
A Process approach to auditing ISO 9001:1994 ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 8
Q Layered Process Auditing (LPA) for a service provider Process Audits and Layered Process Audits 4
A A macro-process structure approach to auditing for ISO 9001:2000(8) General Auditing Discussions 19
D Information Technology Process Audit - Suggestions for Auditing IT IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 12
Z First time Auditor - Auditing an Outsourced Process General Auditing Discussions 3
J Determining Legal& Statutory requirements while Auditing Design & Development process Design and Development of Products and Processes 8
W What is meant by Process Approach Auditing and What questions should be asked? Process Audits and Layered Process Audits 11
C Reference Guide for Process Auditors - Yet another Process Auditing Tool General Auditing Discussions 1
H Auditing Lean as a process - Where to begin? Internal Auditing 9
5 Process based Internal Audits, instead of auditing to the elements of the standard Internal Auditing 21
R Auditing Accounting as a Key Process - TS16949 Audit Internal Auditing 6
R Process Auditing - Identifying/Monitoring "Key" Processes Sufficient? Process Audits and Layered Process Audits 5
J Internal Process Auditing - Auditor Unhappy - Wants Layered Process Audits Process Audits and Layered Process Audits 13
V Process approach based internal auditing Internal Auditing 1
S Automotive Process Approach Auditing sanctioned interpretations S1 04 04 General Auditing Discussions 1
P Process vs Elements/Checklist - Is the old method of auditing the clauses still legal General Auditing Discussions 41
S Auditing - by department, clause or process? General Auditing Discussions 14
M Internal Auditing of our APQP Process - Who can audit APQP? IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 5

Similar threads

Top Bottom