QSP 4.2.3 Control of Documents Procedure - Content and Requirements

[Ettore]

Re: QSP 4.2.3 Control of Documents Procedure

Yes and yes. Yes, we are sure of that, and yes, we could do better.

Probably my English could be better.
Anyway we have to chose the best way to manage quality system without spend time doing useless tasks like controlling documents that are not required to be controlled by the requirements of the norms, also if this works for us right now
Bye

 

[QAMTY]

Re: QSP 4.2.3 Control of Documents Procedure

Pancho

A question regarding this topic

Is an ABC question but I´d like to hear your opinion.

For SP´s and WI´s

the general understanding is that in SP , only include
the general purpose, additionaly by whom, and when
and for WI is HOW (more detail)

But I´ve seen SP´s which incluide a lot of details
including what a WI contains. eliminating
the need to create a WI

How do you manage this issue?

Regards

 

[Pancho]

Re: QSP 4.2.3 Control of Documents Procedure

the general understanding is that in SP , only include the general purpose, additionaly by whom, and when and for WI is HOW (more detail)

But I´ve seen SP´s which incluide a lot of details including what a WI contains. eliminating
the need to create a WI

How do you manage this issue?

Hi QAMTY,

We aren't strict about which docs get called SPs (Standard Procedures) and which WIs (Work Instruction). Though we also think of SPs as "higher level", the extent of the two types of document overlap without any issue.

We allow users to change the designation of a document, but rarely does anyone do it, except as part of a reorganization of the documentation for a process. Such reorganization happens occasionally, as documentation for a particular process evolves. One or more participants in a process will take it upon themselves to reorganize the index of documents in the process, re-title some documents, add links, and generally make the information more accessible, without necessarily making any substantial change to the content. At this time we sometimes end up changing WIs to SPs, or viceversa.

Pancho

 

[QAMTY]

Re: QSP 4.2.3 Control of Documents Procedure

Thanks Pancho for your help


Regards.

 

[tnott]

Re: QSP 4.2.3 Control of Documents Procedure

The way I am doing it is that if a procedure is applicable to more than one department, I have it documented as a quality system procedure which can include the specific "How to" if needed. For example 8.3 - Product Nonconformances. That specific procedure is 5 pages. However, if it is specific to one department only, I have it classified as a work instruction.

Hope that helped.

Tanya

 

[liminandan]

i am working with ISO. i dont know how i ll wrk wd it. how will i do ... ineed examples to wrk out.. plzzz frns i need help!

• Procedure of Document Control (how you will prepare new documents, what will be the codes, how you will review & update it, see the standard of ISO 9001:2008 clause # 4.2.3 for detail)
• Procedure of Data Control (how you will control the records, what will be the codes, how you will review & update it, see the standard of ISO 9001:2008 clause # 4.2.4 for detail)
• Procedure of Internal Audit (how & when you will conduct the audits, see see the standard of ISO 9001:2008 clause # 8.2.2 for detail)
• Procedure of Control of Non-conforming products (how you will control the nonconforming products, see see the standard of ISO 9001:2008 clause # 8.3 for detail)
• Procedure of Corrective Action (how you will take the corrective action, see see the standard of ISO 9001:2008 clause # 8.5.2 for detail)

LIMIYA...!