Quality Manager and Production Manager Advice

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Need some peer advice, I want to present a case to management on why it is not a good idea for the same person to be both Quality Manager/ISO Coordinator and Production Manager. Besides being a conflict of interest, any other pros and cons to help support my case would be greatly appreciated.
 
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They are also different skillsets. So, not only is the dual workload problematic, but the potential for improving one's skills is going to be difficult with the limited time and attention to each role.
 

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Workload. You would need to be a very small company for this to not be an overwhelming workload for anyone. And if push comes to shove, what is going to get done, the production task or the quality task?
 

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why it is not a good idea for the same person to be both Quality Manager/ISO Coordinator and Production Manager
I am going to be the dissenting voice here. Intrinsically, there is only a "conflict of interest" if the organization's ethos and culture is flawed. If an organization does lip service to customer satisfaction/quality, the quality manager position is just a façade, for the most part, and at odds with the rest of the coworkers. On the other hand, if the organization has a healthy approach to quality, the production manager will be empowered to do the "right thing" and accountability for quality will be spread throughout the (business) process owners.

Good luck.
 
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Need some peer advice, I want to present a case to management on why it is not a good idea for the same person to be both Quality Manager/ISO Coordinator and Production Manager. Besides being a conflict of interest, any other pros and cons to help support my case would be greatly appreciated.
Yes, Quality and Production with in one Department. May be better Quality and Engineering. Although some people talk about work load. But any way, do you know mine? I have responsibility of Quality System, General Affair and Information Technology within HRD and GA Department. Otherwise QA/QC in other department. Imagine everyday handling Catering, Security, Employee transportation and others administration things and Quality Management system certification, environment, Material data System, Substance of Control at once #APQP, #PPAP etc.
 

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The people planning and doing the work should also be responsible for the quality of their work.

The Chief Exec (top manager) ensures her or his system helps everyone to do this and may need help. That help may be a role for a System Manager (often mistakenly called the Quality Manager).
 

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Leading management system in this changed world are heavy task , you could be daily follow up the last modification & the proposed changes as well , , representing your organization for surveillance , certification , registration & product certification are needing Q. Leader who should independent from routine tasks ; although internal audits & follow up the corrective actions resulted, preparing management system process & approving the changes in management system ---etc. --please let me know : how can anyone bear productions targets , leading production sections with assuring the essential resources!! --- beside Q, inspection, management system & technical product certification tasks !!??
 

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conflict of interest is critical issue also for Quality tasks in all organization , in small company' Design, research &development ,Engineering & Quality assurance could be integrated ; , the processes preparation , reviewing & approving the outcomes will be made under one resp. "--- but suspecting of conflict is still exist
 
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