SBS - The best value in QMS software

Quality Objectives Ideas - Currently we have Scrap & rework, OTD, survey results, etc

J

janabiyah

#41
Re: Quality Objectives Ideas - Currently we have Scrap & rework, OTD, survey results,

Very interesting material and discussions.
With regard to all measurements it is importnat to understand the difference between leading and lagging indicators.

For example, financial indicators, "Increase sales by 10%" are measurable after the event.

However, to achieve the increase in sales we need other activities such as:
"Train 80% of salesforce in new widget selling techniques by 15 March."
So this is called a leading indicator and we will not achieve the 10% sales increase without first completing this task.

So an ideal set of measurable quality objectives would contain a balanced set of leading and lagging measurements.

An example for a manufacturing company could be:

Lagging indicator (financial) "Reduce warranty costs by 10%"

To achieve this we need to set up another 1 or more measurements based on leading indicators such as:
"Ensure material defect rate in final assembly is less than 2%"
"Ensure quality control checks 43% of finished product before shipping"

So the assumption is that if we achieve the leading indicators, then we will achieve the lagging goal.

To measure the time an athlete takes to run a mile is a lagging indicator

The leading indicators are the time spent training, coaching. The diet, etc.

Hope somebody finds this useful
 
Elsmar Forum Sponsor

Golfman25

Trusted Information Resource
#42
Re: Quality Objectives Ideas - Currently we have Scrap & rework, OTD, survey results,

Well, you can start with customer satisfaction, complaints, regulatory issues and concerns, environmental considerations...there are probably more, but this list can demonstrate the point. And, obviously, all of these are important.

Remember, I stated that I STRONGLY promote the principle that ISO supports a focus on profit, but it is not the only thing. A lot of companies lost market share because their focus was on profit to the expense of customer satisfaction (which of course leads to profit).
So how would you measure those considerations?
 
D

DrM2u

#43
Re: Quality Objectives Ideas - Currently we have Scrap & rework, OTD, survey results,

Well, you can start with customer satisfaction, complaints, regulatory issues and concerns, environmental considerations...there are probably more, but this list can demonstrate the point. And, obviously, all of these are important.

Remember, I stated that I STRONGLY promote the principle that ISO supports a focus on profit, but it is not the only thing. A lot of companies lost market share because their focus was on profit to the expense of customer satisfaction (which of course leads to profit).
:agree1:Indeed these factors are important to consider for an organization but we cannot deny that thet can and do have an impact on company's bottom line. Therefore (at least some of) the related metrics should be tied to the bottom line (or profit, if you wish). Happy customers usually leads to more business (needs to satisfy by the system), unhappy ones lead to lost business; trends in $ volume of business with each customers could be a metric. Complaints are a form of customers expressing their dissatisfaction; the effectiveness of the related actions can be quantified financially (cost of failure, cost of prevention, cost of detection, etc). Regulatory issues & concerns can also be quantified through the 'cost' of compliance and 'cost' of non-compliance, and same goes for environmental considerations.
 
D

DrM2u

#44
Re: Quality Objectives Ideas - Currently we have Scrap & rework, OTD, survey results,

Very interesting material and discussions.
With regard to all measurements it is importnat to understand the difference between leading and lagging indicators.
I agree with the need to break down goals and objectives into bits that are achievable and that enable the attainment of the ultimate goal. Another example: my goal is to travel from town A to town C but I must pass through town B. My two enabling (or lagging) objectives are first to get to town B then to get from town B to town C. The enabling objectives that help me get to town B and beyond are to get from one electricity pole to the other (assuming there are some along the road :biglaugh:). Now I cannot see towns B and C but I can see the next electricity pole, have a good idea of what actions I must take to get there and I can see if I am making progress by doing what I set to do. Yeah, it sounds a lot simpler that being done ...
 
J

JaneB

#45
Re: Quality Objectives Ideas - Currently we have Scrap & rework, OTD, survey results,

would first acknowledge that the attachment with KPIs was totally helpful. Our company is going through restructuring and we all have to seriously look at our jobs and how they relate to the money side of our business. I attach my Balanced scorecard. Its open for review just to help me out. I oversee our Food Safety and Quality Management systems (ISO9001/HACCP).
Glad that you received some assistance - that's the important thing!

One comment is that I assume under 'Financial' you'd have further more specifically defined cost reductions, and that those would be measured in terms of say $$costs actually reduced, beyond simply 'suggestions taken up'.
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#46
Re: Quality Objectives Ideas - Currently we have Scrap & rework, OTD, survey results,

:agree1:Indeed these factors are important to consider for an organization but we cannot deny that thet can and do have an impact on company's bottom line. Therefore (at least some of) the related metrics should be tied to the bottom line (or profit, if you wish). Happy customers usually leads to more business (needs to satisfy by the system), unhappy ones lead to lost business; trends in $ volume of business with each customers could be a metric. Complaints are a form of customers expressing their dissatisfaction; the effectiveness of the related actions can be quantified financially (cost of failure, cost of prevention, cost of detection, etc). Regulatory issues & concerns can also be quantified through the 'cost' of compliance and 'cost' of non-compliance, and same goes for environmental considerations.
Yes, they can relate to the bottom line in one form or another. And, I strongly encourage Quality people to be more aware of how their activities affect the bottom line. I just argued against the statement that "only metrics which affect profit are relevant." That is too narrow.
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#47
Re: Quality Objectives Ideas - Currently we have Scrap & rework, OTD, survey results,

So how would you measure those considerations?
That should be pretty apparent.

1. customer satisfaction can be tracked with customer reports or whatever method the organization set up to address cl 8.2.1. It is a requirement.

2. complaints can be tracked by number of complaints, pcs parts, pareto...

3. regulatory issues and concerns, environmental considerations would need to be broken down in finer categories. But, negative events could be tracked the same as #2.

There are more, but this list can demonstrate the point.
 
J

janabiyah

#48
Re: Quality Objectives Ideas - Currently we have Scrap & rework, OTD, survey results,

An interesting target would be to increase management interest in the system.

How to measure it?
 

Golfman25

Trusted Information Resource
#49
Re: Quality Objectives Ideas - Currently we have Scrap & rework, OTD, survey results,

An interesting target would be to increase management interest in the system.

How to measure it?
If you want management to be interested, speak their language -- profit and loss. Measure your metrics in terms of dollars and I'll bet management will be more interested.
 
R

Richard Pike

#50
Re: Quality Objectives Ideas - Currently we have Scrap & rework, OTD, survey results,

Since you wanted it "out of the box", you can try the following:

- Number of times MRM/Internal audit was not conducted as per schedule.
- Number of times Quality Manager was fired on account of stopping Production or despatch due to Quality problems.
- Number of NC your external auditor raised, but didnt want to make it official (excuse me, if it is controversial)
- Number of PFMEA prepared or reviewed without Multi disciplinary approach.
.............
Superb!;)
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
S Anyone have good ideas on QA (quality assurance) group goals and objectives? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 14
J Quality Objectives and resources ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 11
U Examples of Quality Objectives for a Medtech start up ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 4
V Quality Objectives - ISO 9001 2015 ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 26
I Quality Policy and Objectives examples Elsmar Cove Forum Suggestions, Complaints, Problems and Bug Reports 5
M Specific Values of Quality Objectives Benchmarking 7
Q Quality Objectives Not Met - Resources promised by investors ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 4
V What plans have been put in place to achieve quality objectives? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 6
A Objectives in Quality Policy ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 15
K ISO 13485 section 5.3 Quality Policy - No framework for establishing and reviewing quality objectives ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 2
S QUALITY OBJECTIVEs for third party garments factory inspection ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 5
R ISO 13485 Software validation procedure and Quality Objectives Monitoring wanted Document Control Systems, Procedures, Forms and Templates 1
F Quality Objectives - Where in the QMS Quality Objectives should be located ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 8
Farley.0 QMS Sales Goals & Quality Objectives Manufacturing and Related Processes 22
qualprod Annual SWOT for 4.1? I plan to revise quality objectives and strategic route ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 3
K Setting Quality Objectives (for the first time) AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 17
V Discussion of ISO 9001:2015 - "Quality Objectives" term ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 16
P Quality objectives - must they include CAPA and internal audit topic? ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 28
S Quality Department Objectives ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 21
K Where in the quality manual do I put our Quality Objectives and our Quality Policy Quality Management System (QMS) Manuals 19
R ISO 13485:2016 - Quality Objectives Regulatory Requirement Examples ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 1
Q Additional KPI to Top Management beside Quality Objectives ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 6
R Examples of Quality Objectives related to ISO 13485:2016 ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 6
Q Setting Quality Objectives with a Timeframe ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 4
S Identifying Objectives & Targets for Quality Control ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 9
R 5.4.1 Quality Objectives - Nonconformity: The process was not fully effective ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 36
dubrizo If Quality Objectives are not known to employees, is it a Nonconformance? General Auditing Discussions 7
M Quality Objectives and Monitoring & Measurement of Processes - Clause 8.2.3 ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 6
T Corrective Action for Quality Objectives which are not Measureable Nonconformance and Corrective Action 7
T Best place in QMS to manage Quality Objectives ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 11
Q Quality Objectives for Quality Control and Quality Assurance functions AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 3
T Setting Quality Objectives ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 10
K Are Quality Objectives applicable on HSE Department? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 8
J Will these Quality Objectives cover the Product Requirements? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 7
S Presentation for tracking Quality Objectives across sites Preventive Action and Continuous Improvement 3
M Quality Objectives - Acceptable Levels and Functions ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 37
H ISO 9001 Quality Objectives Scorecard or Matrix template to share ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 1
J Setting Quality Objectives for Service, Repair and Sales ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 4
S Understanding Quality Objectives, Metrics and KPI ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 15
L Changing Quality Objectives ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 12
G Differences between Quality Objectives and Business KPI's ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 8
A Where to document Quality Objectives ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 6
J Quality Objectives for Engineering Department and R&D Quality Manager and Management Related Issues 5
A Quality Objectives 5.4.1 - KPI SOP - ISO 13485 Audit Observations EU Medical Device Regulations 6
A Are Explicit Quality Objectives Required? Quality Management System (QMS) Manuals 8
G Defining Quality Objectives for Product Realization and Design and Development AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 5
J Quality Objectives - Telephone Calls ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 1
S Quality Objectives for Aerospace Chemical Conversion & other Surface Treatment Plant AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 3
D Determining Quality Objectives for the Finance Department ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 16
C Looking for new Quality Objectives (ISO 9001) ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 9

Similar threads

Top Bottom