Reaction Plan To Drive suppliers to IATF 16949 registration

#1
Hello All, been a long time since I've been here. I am looking at IATF16949 8.4.2.3. As the Supplier Quality Engineer for my company I have to visit and audit our suppliers. I was asked about a reaction plan for suppliers that are not registered to IATF16949 or ISO9001 for that matter, what is our reaction plan for developing that supplier to IATF or what happens if they can't or will not get registered? I don't see where there has to be a documented action plan for this. However, it seems there has to be one does anyone have an example of what you've done? I am getting nowhere with my google search.
 
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Golfman25

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I think is basically up to your supplier. You’ll need to work with them to develop a schedule to get them where you want.
 

John C. Abnet

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IATF16949 8.4.2.3
Good day @theGrod ;
Good and oft debated topic. So, as you are aware, the clause you referenced states "...SHALL require...SHALL...9001 by maintaining third party certification". No question regarding ISO 9001. Unless your customer has provided a waiver to the contrary, your suppliers shall be ISO 9001 certified.


Here's where the wording gets soft.
"...the ultimate objective ...[IATF 16949] ..."
"...the following sequence SHOULD be applied..."

Regardless of the poor wording, however, it is clear that the intent of clause 8.4.2.3 is for suppliers to be required to have "ultimate goal of IATF 16949 certification". How each individual 3rd party and auditor will interpret and apply to your specific situation can be (should not be) anybody's guess.

In the past I have simply ensured that eligible suppliers not certified to IATF 16949 submitted a plan. That "plan" could be loosely worded and be a "long term" plan.

Not very objective information, but hope this helps.

Be well.
 

joekirk

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#4
One way to look at it is by reviewing clause 8.4.2.4.1. Organizations need to document the criteria for determining the need, type, frequency, and scope of second party audits. How you answer this question will help you on 8.4.2.3.
Many organizations have developed a scorecard for suppliers that should include everything in 8.4.2.4 and the status of their QMS (ISO9001, IATF16949 or nothing). Criteria for doing second party audits could be established (if a supplier is below XX then we must schedule an audit).

Where I have seen companies fail is that they put criteria in place, but fail to conduct the audits for one reason or another (travel budget cut, did not have time, priorities, etc...).
 
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