Reading ability - The prospective auditor could not read

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ralphsulser

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Dave- Here is an intersesting tidbit from the past concerning Marion High School. My daughter was attending Marion High School in the mid 70's and bringing home Grades of As & Bs with little or no homework. We moved to Mt Etna and that put us in the Huntington School District. Suddenly, she was getting Cs with a bunch of homework. Had to really hit the books to get those grades up.
 
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Rob Nix

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Ralph and Roxane got me going, so "it's not my fault" (the theme for this era) :mad:

The children of the baby boomers rode an economic high, where they had/received everything without having to exert themselves (at either learning or working) for it! [Caveat: not ALL of them]

My children were shown movies in class rather than learning to read! When did "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure" become part of "History" curriculum??? Fortunately, my wife and I read a lot to the children growing up, and had them read also (aloud), so they did OK. But many entering the work force have very little initiative AND are not functionally literate (see Dave's definition).

Thank goodness for the sports page and the TV guide, they're the only things helping this generation know what "words" are.

Sorry for the rant :soap:
 
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Craig H.

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Rob Nix said:
Ralph and Roxane got me going, so "it's not my fault" (the theme for this era) :mad:

The children of the baby boomers rode an economic high, where they had/received everything without having to exert themselves (at either learning or working) for it! [Caveat: not ALL of them]

My children were shown movies in class rather than learning to read! When did "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure" become part of "History" curriculum??? Fortunately, my wife and I read a lot to the children growing up, and had them read also (aloud), so they did OK. But many entering the work force have very little initiative AND are not functionally literate (see Dave's definition).

Thank goodness for the sports page and the TV guide, they're the only things helping this generation know what "words" are.

Sorry for the rant :soap:

Rob:

Ok you started the ranting, so here's my red cents.

I don't care how much money you put into schools, I don't care what programs you have with catchy titles, and I don't even care what calibur of teachers you have (to an extent at least). As long as the PARENTS do NOT value education, and do NOT pass along the value of education to their children, chances are poor that their particular child will learn.

(rant suspended)

And, Dave, that is exactly the cycle your type of volunteer work can break. When children see their parents value education, when learning becomes part of their value system, the rest will usually fall into place.

Placing blame on teachers is bogus. Most of the time saying we are not spending enough money is a governmental money grab (the studies are there). It starts (or does not) in the home.

Period.

Craig
 
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Craig H. said:
Rob:

Ok you started the ranting, so here's my red cents.

I don't care how much money you put into schools, I don't care what programs you have with catchy titles, and I don't even care what calibur of teachers you have (to an extent at least). As long as the PARENTS do NOT value education, and do NOT pass along the value of education to their children, chances are poor that their particular child will learn.

(rant suspended)

And, Dave, that is exactly the cycle your type of volunteer work can break. When children see their parents value education, when learning becomes part of their value system, the rest will usually fall into place.

Placing blame on teachers is bogus. Most of the time saying we are not spending enough money is a governmental money grab (the studies are there). It starts (or does not) in the home.

Period.

Craig
I think we're heading towards politics here, but I want to disagree Craig. If what you are saying is true, then that means I to blame for what my kids do (or don't in this case). I know that I'm not at fault...it must be someone else's. :rolleyes:
 

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Rob Nix said:
Thank goodness for the sports page and the TV guide, they're the only things helping this generation know what "words" are.
Hey maybe ya got something there Rob. . .We (As Baby Boomer parents) should lobby the publishers to start putting uncommon verbage in. . . so the tykes have to look them up!
 
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Craig H.

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db said:
I think we're heading towards politics here, but I want to disagree Craig. If what you are saying is true, then that means I to blame for what my kids do (or don't in this case). I know that I'm not at fault...it must be someone else's. :rolleyes:
db:

Maybe we are. School board elections can be real battles.

And, I do agree with you as well to some extent. The old coorelation vs causation thing, I guess.

That said, how many of the people here in the Cove were taught to read, and how to count, by their parents before they ever set foot on school grounds? I think that the Cove is populated by learned people, and many of us were even self educated in quality when we started. Even though it would not be a representative sample, maybe a poll is in order measuring at what age Cove members learned to read?

As far as you not being responsible, do I detect a sarcastic tone to your tome (it just hit me. Rolleyes was the big clue)? Even so, even if you are serious, I would submit that a child who is exposed to a passion, or, heck, even a passing interest for, learning is more likely to succeed (meaning live a fulfilling and productive life) than a child who is not exposed to those same stimuli.

And, my remark that programs such as the one Dave is working on are just the way to inject that interest in learning into a home goes undenied.

Um, I'm sorry if I have derailed this thread.

Craig
 
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Craig, the :rolleyes: was intentional.

Taz, an alternative is to have kids visit the Cove. Jim W and Wes B have both sent me to the dictionary to figure out what they were saying. :read:

Of course, I have to use a dictionary to figure out how to spell "a". :frust:
 

The Taz!

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db said:
Taz, an alternative is to have kids visit the Cove. Jim W and Wes B have both sent me to the dictionary to figure out what they were saying. :read: Of course, I have to use a dictionary to figure out how to spell "a". :frust:
I've sent my Swedish Bro Claes running for the dictionary too. . . he now knows what Oxymoron means. . . :lmao: :topic:
 

Al Rosen

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#19
db said:
I think we're heading towards politics here, but I want to disagree Craig. If what you are saying is true, then that means I to blame for what my kids do (or don't in this case). I know that I'm not at fault...it must be someone else's. :rolleyes:
Dave:

Do I detect a note of sarcasm?
 
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Craig H.

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Al Rosen said:
Dave:

Do I detect a note of sarcasm.

Al, actually the note was played rather loudly. db and I have been in other threads where personal responsibility has been discussed, and I should have known better than to think for a second the post was to be taken literally.

:bonk:

Craig
 
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