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dawnz

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I'm currently getting quotes for In-house ISO 9001 Internal Auditor Training for approx. 12 employees in Southern NJ. Any recommendations?
 
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szohar

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Re: ISO 9001 Internal Auditor Training

I attended ISO 9001 Internal Auditor Training offered by SAI Global this past February (I really only needed the FDA component, but the course covered both FDA and ISO 9001), and I found the training informative and well-organized.

The link to their ISO 9001 Internal Auditor Traning course is not directly on their website - SAI Global absorbed the company originally providing that training - but you should be able to contact someone there and get more information.

If you have any trouble getting that information, send me a private message and I can send you the most recent contact info I have from when I took the course at the start of the year.
 

Coury Ferguson

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Re: ISO 9001 Internal Auditor Training

I'm currently getting quotes for In-house ISO 9001 Internal Auditor Training for approx. 12 employees in Southern NJ. Any recommendations?
There are a few consultants here. Try seeking them out. Try one of the following consultants, they teach such classes:

Stijloor or Helmut
 
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Bob the QE

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We had a very good and useful class from LRQA. I think you'll find that all reputable registrars can fit your need. What I looked for when we went down the ISO road was location (helps reduce travel costs) and local or network recommendations. I did use the recommendations quite extensively and spoke with the folks personally not via email.

Good luck
 
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We had a very good and useful class from LRQA. I think you'll find that all reputable registrars can fit your need. What I looked for when we went down the ISO road was location (helps reduce travel costs) and local or network recommendations. I did use the recommendations quite extensively and spoke with the folks personally not via email.

Good luck
I believe that Certification Bodies have to be careful about running classes 'on-site' which are not open to the public - to avoid the consulting conflict-of-interest issue, Bob.......

The OP asked for on site training.....
 

Sidney Vianna

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I believe that Certification Bodies have to be careful about running classes 'on-site' which are not open to the public - to avoid the consulting conflict-of-interest issue, Bob.......

The OP asked for on site training.....
The note under paragraph 3.3 of ISO 17021:2006 stipulates that the provision of courses does not constitute conflict of interest, and thus a threat to impartiality, IF the course provides GENERIC information that "is freely available to the public domain". As long as the training follows the same material and information provided during public courses and does not engage in customization and company-specific solutions, no problem.
 
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The note under paragraph 3.3 of ISO 17021:2006 stipulates that the provision of courses does not constitute conflict of interest, and thus a threat to impartiality, IF the course provides GENERIC information that "is freely available to the public domain". As long as the training follows the same material and information provided during public courses and does not engage in customization and company-specific solutions, no problem.
IF - hence my comment. Having run hundreds of training courses, there's often a component of 'what about our situation' when running on site......that's why I believe CB's have to take care.....since who would know what was being discussed, behind 'closed doors'......?

One of the many benefits of using a consultant trainer is the possibility to tailor comments to a client's needs without the fear of any conflicts. Indeed there's more value to that than just getting a generic course with public domain info!
 
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Stijloor

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IF - hence my comment. Having run hundreds of training courses, there's often a component of 'what about our situation' when running on site......that's why I believe CB's have to take care.....since who would know what was being discussed, behind 'closed doors'......?
Great points! Most of my on-site internal audit courses presented at already registered sites are usually customized to fit the organization's (audit program) needs and expectations. To add value for the Client, I try to make it work better for them which includes a healthy dose of suggestions and ideas. So you could consider that approach training including "consulting."

Stijloor.
 

Helmut Jilling

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I'm currently getting quotes for In-house ISO 9001 Internal Auditor Training for approx. 12 employees in Southern NJ. Any recommendations?
I would be happy to discuss this with you. We have developed a unique internal auditor training program and improvement system that is designed to both teach and guide auditors into doing effective process approach audits. They are taught to both audit for ISO requirements AND to find improvements that would benefit and provide value to the company.

So far, the responses to the class have been very, very good. I think w ehave finally developed the missing link vs the standard dull internal auditor programs. I will provide references if you are interested, but for now, I'll try to attach a short PPT promo you may view.

http://elsmar.com/Forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6731&d=1176910559
 
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