Registrar's Registration Audit Checklist

[dbulak]

I know that Registrars use a check list when they audit. Does anyone have a copy of a checklist for the 2000 standard that they would be willing to share?

 

[E Wall]

I've got one, but paper copy only. 18 pages total. E-mail me your address and I'll send a copy by mail (or will fax if you prefer).

EDITED to Include the following:
For those e-mailing me - please provide your mailing address, and I'll send out a copy. I also recommend contacting your registrar first to see if they will provide you with their copy.

[This message has been edited by E Wall (edited 15 June 2001).]

 

[tomvehoski]

Most registrars will provide you with a copy of their checklist if you ask. I have worked with several that would e-mail or snail mail them to you. Check with the sales rep. or auditor.

 

[DonkeyKong]

ISO 2k Checklist

Just curious if anyone has a per se "canned" ISO 2K audit checklist available for sharing...We have some new internal auditors coming on board and I wanted to be able to show them some examples that would help them form some ideas.

Any help, as always, is appreciated.

Lord Froto

 

[E Wall]

File Attached

I'm trying to attach the file but am having problems posting it. If you do not see it, send me an e-mail and I'll reply with the file.

 

[HFowler]

dbulak,

Not all registrars use a checklist. The registrar that I've used for the past (3) years didn't, at least not openly, that I could tell. They are one of the largest and most well known. Their auditing style is very conversational.

Best Regards,
Hank Fowler

 

[Marc]

A 'check list' is nothing more than someone's interpretation of the standard.

Most registrars do use check lists. Their excuse is consistency - the excuse is there, they say, because of the variability of auditors. I say they use them so even idiots can audit. I don't like checklists at all. But - I do make sure clients have copies from several registrars so they understand before hand what to expect (prep for the exam).

An Audit should be to the standard - not a 'check list'. I have been through the scenario more than once where an auditor starts to write something up according to their check list and I had to step in and say "...let's look at the standard and see what IT has to say..."

Use them - but use them wisely. If your auditor is using one, make sure - if there's a writeup starting - that you make them point out the requirement in the standard and that you agree with their interpretation.

 

[gpainter]

Most registrars have checklist. I think most auditors develope their questioning techniques that answer the questions on the checklist and do not just read the questions on the list.

 

[E Wall]

Agree

Our Registrar's Auditors are all trained to follow the 'checklist' basics and I have never seen any of them actually carry a copy, when you do as many audits as the 'Pro's' you know what you're looking for. They provided it to us as a curtesy for the y2k and all their auditors (that audit the 9000 series must become familiar with it). I expect by Jan 2003 when we go through our transition-certification audit, no copy will be visible when they audit us.

 

[JodiB]

Hank,

It's possible that you use the registrar that I used to work for. We did not have checklists for our assessors. Sometimes new clients would ask for a copy of the checklist, and we would just tell them that nope, our assessors don't use checklists other than whatever they develop to use for that particular visit.

Also, our assessors did not audit "by clause" which was also something that had to be explained to new clients. We always used the process approach and audited "areas" of a company, so really the only checklist that there could be was which areas were scheduled to be looked at that visit. The clients always had a surveillance schedule anyway so all they needed to do was refer to that. All clauses applied as appropriate!

When our clients were asking how would the audits change with the new standard, we were able to say "shouldn't change much at all. We've always used the process approach!"