Remote product audits in Coivd-19 - IATF 16949 9.2.2.4

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#1
Greetings,

Due to the Covid-19, we were presented with several situations that prevent us from moving to some of our locations.

How feasible do you consider doing some remote product audits?

In theory, we would review inspection reports, material certificates, test reports, packaging photos, etc.

In the end, I think we would reach the goal of verifying their compliance (on paper)!

What could our client or certification house ask for on their next visit?

I would appreciate your comments
 
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Jim Wynne

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Greetings,

Due to the Covid-19, we were presented with several situations that prevent us from moving to some of our locations.

How feasible do you consider doing some remote product audits?

In theory, we would review inspection reports, material certificates, test reports, packaging photos, etc.

In the end, I think we would reach the goal of verifying their compliance (on paper)!

What could our client or certification house ask for on their next visit?

I would appreciate your comments
While your idea seems reasonable to me, the only way to tell how your customer(s) and CB would view it is to ask them.
 

Howard Atkins

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#4
Please note that the standard is very clear and simple
9.2.2.4 Product audit
The organization shall audit products using customer-specific required approaches at
appropriate stages of production and delivery to verify conformity to specified requirements.
Where not defined by the customer, the organization shall define the approach to be used.

This means that you can do as you define as long as the customer defines something else.

GM for example state

9.2.2.4 Product audit
The organization shall perform quality focused checks on each shift.
The organization shall have a process for final inspection and/or Customer Acceptance Review & Evaluation (CARE). GP-12 shall be performed as required during launch and until released by the organization’s assigned SQE or designate and per GM 1927-28 Early Production Containment (GP-12).
1. Final inspection shall be performed on all finished product prior to shipping. This inspection can be 100% inspection or less based on risk.
2. GP-12 inspection checks shall be included at an upstream inspection station (final inspection/CARE).
3. Quality checks shall be included in standardized work. Point, touch, listen, and count inspection methods are incorporated.
4. Successive production/quality checks shall be increased in cases of high risks such as model launch, pass through components and characteristics pass through, major changes, shut down (see clause 8.5.1.4) or customer feedback.

This needs to be performed at the manufacturing facility and there is no need for remote auditing
In general I see no reason for remote product audits.
 
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