Remote support - IATF allowed words defined?

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Johnny Quality

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GretaAnn,

The document you have is dated 07/01/15, before IATF 16949:2016 was issued. Did this term get revised as remote locations as defined in IATF 16949:2016? I can't find my old copy to confirm.

remote location
location that supports manufacturing sites and at which non-production processes occur
 

Howard Atkins

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For the sake of uniformity IATF has said that you need to use one or more of these terms only whatever you call your processes
IATF defined support functions: After Sales; Calibration; Continuous Improvement; Contract Review; Customer Service; Distribution; Engineering; Facilities Management; Finance; H. R.; I.T.; Internal Audit Management; Laboratory; Logistics; Maintenance; Management Review; Marketing; Packaging; Policy Making; Process Design; Product Design; Production Equipment Development; Purchasing; Quality System Management; R&D; Repair; Sales; Sequencing; Servicing; Strategic Planning; Supplier Management; Testing; Training; Warehousing; Warranty Management.

Maximum discuss with your auditor which you want to use
 

GretaAnn

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GretaAnn,

The document you have is dated 07/01/15, before IATF 16949:2016 was issued. Did this term get revised as remote locations as defined in IATF 16949:2016? I can't find my old copy to confirm.

remote location
location that supports manufacturing sites and at which non-production processes occur
I just checked and this is still active. Thanks
 

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GretaAnn

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For the sake of uniformity IATF has said that you need to use one or more of these terms only whatever you call your processes
IATF defined support functions: After Sales; Calibration; Continuous Improvement; Contract Review; Customer Service; Distribution; Engineering; Facilities Management; Finance; H. R.; I.T.; Internal Audit Management; Laboratory; Logistics; Maintenance; Management Review; Marketing; Packaging; Policy Making; Process Design; Product Design; Production Equipment Development; Purchasing; Quality System Management; R&D; Repair; Sales; Sequencing; Servicing; Strategic Planning; Supplier Management; Testing; Training; Warehousing; Warranty Management.

Maximum discuss with your auditor which you want to use
The support functions are not fully defined. For example, Contract Review is so much more than JUST reviewing the contract. It is part of the overall sales process in our organization. We do not use all these words and are looking to see if anyone has assigned an operational definition.
Thanks
 

Thee Bouyyy

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Hi, I don't have a copy of the standard, but I believe Remote Supporting Location refers to the physical location, office, or address, and Remote Supporting Functions refers to the job they conduct there. For example, the location and function may be "UK" and "Purchasing," respectively.
 

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Hi, I don't have a copy of the standard, but I believe Remote Supporting Location refers to the physical location, office, or address, and Remote Supporting Functions refers to the job they conduct there. For example, the location and function may be "UK" and "Purchasing," respectively.
This is not what is being asked as I understand

What is the difference between testing and laboratory or Engineering and R&D .........
Purchasing
and Quality System Management is easy maybe?

The best way as said before is to work with your auditor as she/he will need to record it on the certificate.
I have these discussions all the time with no threat to a negative finding if you initiate the discussion
 

GretaAnn

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This is not what is being asked as I understand

What is the difference between testing and laboratory or Engineering and R&D .........
Purchasing
and Quality System Management is easy maybe?

The best way as said before is to work with your auditor as she/he will need to record it on the certificate.
I have these discussions all the time with no threat to a negative finding if you initiate the discussion
This is exactly correct. Internally we defined the words and are having trouble wit the CM regarding Purchasing vs supplier management. We define purchasing to include supplier management.
I am working on a is / is not reference for our handbook

Thanks,
Greta
 

Howard Atkins

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In the end it does not really matter it is paperwork
The audit will cover what you define.
The activities do not 100% need to be performed in one place but with "support".
It is not worth being worked up about it
 
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