Requirement for Accredited Suppliers - ISO 9001 Clause 7.4.1 Purchasing process

[abd_sg]

7.4.1

Good Day to all! I am doing an audit for NDT services company.

During the audit,

Personnel doing RT for NDT schedule will take his vacation.He should handover exact qty of films in our warehouse as per OP.During verification the qty is not balance as per issued to him vs. the returned qty.

As per their practice ,they will buy same film with same quality from another supplier to conform with the exact qty to be return in whse.

I check in their OP,accredited supplier was not mentioned...

As per verification there was no customer complaint also when they purchased the film.

Question:

Is this a violation of clause 7.4.1?since they are buying from different supplier?..



"The type and extent of control applied to the supplier and the purchased product shall be dependent upon the effect of the purchased product on subsequent product realization or the final produc."

 

[DannyK]

If they violate the requirements of their procedure, it can be considered as a finding.

It was difficult to understand your post due to the use of acronyms. What is RT?

 

[Stijloor]

If they violate the requirements of their procedure, it can be considered as a finding.

It was difficult to understand your post due to the use of acronyms. What is RT?

RT = Radiographic testing.

Stijloor.

 

[somashekar]

7.4.1

Good Day to all! I am doing an audit for NDT services company.

During the audit,

Personnel doing RT for NDT schedule will take his vacation.He should handover exact qty of films in our warehouse as per OP.During verification the qty is not balance as per issued to him vs. the returned qty.

As per their practice ,they will buy same film with same quality from another supplier to conform with the exact qty to be return in whse.

I check in their OP,accredited supplier was not mentioned...

As per verification there was no customer complaint also when they purchased the film.

Question:

Is this a violation of clause 7.4.1?since they are buying from different supplier?..



"The type and extent of control applied to the supplier and the purchased product shall be dependent upon the effect of the purchased product on subsequent product realization or the final produc."

It is a good practice to list out their evaluated and selected suppliers for an important material like film. If you can find evidence that the selected alternate is evaluated to be same as the other, its fine and you can suggest an improvement aspect by way of having a record of evaluated suppliers for critical parts. If no evidence that the alternate is of same quality then you have a concern in 7.4.1
(Just want to know if the supplier (dealer) is different in this case and the material (film) is from the same manufacturer ..?)

 

[abd_sg]

Hi All,

Thanks for the reply.

Base from the the evidences during the audit, films has same packaging and it was sealed.

Brand and manufacturer is the same but Lot no. and the Dealer is different.Since no clients complain...the disposition of findings is observation.
Based from the expiry date it is not due.MSDS and Technical Specs was downloaded from internet and it conforms as per client requirements.

As per auditee,they need flexibility in looking for suppliers as long as it has same brand and manufacturer with lower cost.

Theres no point to have an accredited vendors since they can contact suppliers globally.

As an OFI , Our team auditors suggested to list all those dealers / suppliers and put it in the record for future references and drp.As of now,records of supplier assessment was not yet established.We will be doing a follow-up audit after 1 month of implementation.

Our Team Auditors highlighted also the criteria in assessing qualified vendors / dealers.We will be focusing in handling stocks to prevent delay, handling and response to quality issues at win - win cost.

Thank you very much.