Revision Number vs. Issue Number - Document Control in ISO 17025:2005

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Z.chamist

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Hi all,
I am working on ISO 17025:2005 in my QAD Lab. Quality Manual, QSP, SOP and forms and formsts are completed. A debate is contnuing between me and my Quality Manager about Revision No and Issue No. Is any diffrence b/w both Terms?
 
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TwoEds

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The standard (ISO 17025:2005) requires that each authorized edition of a document has a unique identification. Your choice of name for that unique identifier (issue number, revision number, version number, etc.) is not restricted. If for some reason your identifier has multiple parts, one might be called the issue number and another the revision number. I wouldn't recommend going that route.
 

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Hi all,
I am working on ISO 17025:2005 in my QAD Lab. Quality Manual, QSP, SOP and forms and formsts are completed. A debate is contnuing between me and my Quality Manager about Revision No and Issue No. Is any diffrence b/w both Terms?
IMHO it's just semantics.

Bottomline is there should be a form of control to ensure that only the most current version is available for use.
 
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Z.chamist

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Dear TwoEds,
Your post is helpfull but you did not define the both terms separately. furthermore Is there any standard our guidline document for Document Control?.
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kedarg6500

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Revision No and Issue No.
we consider Revision No for major revisions in the procedure, like many activities in the procedure are changed or the objectives of the activities are changed significantly,Revision No is changed .

We consider Issue No when minor changes are done in that revision.

When we change Revision No, Issue No will be 00
 
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Hi all,
I am working on ISO 17025:2005 in my QAD Lab. Quality Manual, QSP, SOP and forms and formsts are completed. A debate is contnuing between me and my Quality Manager about Revision No and Issue No. Is any diffrence b/w both Terms?
If you want to clearly identify documents with the same overall content when the are actually different, either term can be used - they mean the same usually. Some organizations split them to mean different things, but that's probably making it a bureaucracy, IMHO!
 
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Sturmkind

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I agree with the idea that Revision is a form, fit, or function change while Issue number is for minor changes like rewording for clarity, correction to a mis-spelling, add/deletion of who is copied, etc.
 
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