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Rules for Achieving IATF Recognition: 4th edition for ISO/TS 16949

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artorius22

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From the AIAG website:

"Rules for ISO/TS 16949 Certification Scheme
Automotive Certification Scheme for ISO/TS 16949, Rules for Achieving and Maintaining IATF Recognition, Fourth Edition.

This document, in regards to ISO/TS 16949 implementation, includes criteria for certification body recognition, certification body audit process, certification body auditor qualifications, and ISO/TS 16949 certificates. These requirements and any Annexes are binding for certification bodies recognized by the IATF for the ISO/TS 16949 certification scheme and, therefore, shall need to be understood by any client seeking ISO/TS 16949 certification."

From SMMT website:

"The purpose for the new edition

Support the on-going development of the value and credibility of the ISO/TS 3rd party certification scheme.
Provide clarification of requirements based on issues found during office assessment and witness audit
Need to incorporate the existing 16 FAQ?s and 22 SI?s issued against Rules for Achieving Recognition 3rd edition"
 
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Jessie

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#15
The elimination of the manufacturing site extension is quite a headache. We have several locations where we have one plant for pre-fabrication, and another plant just down the road for final assembly. Same senior management, same management review, same process system, two separate audits. And what about remote warehouses? I can't see the advantage to anyone except the person cashing my check for the audit days.
 
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LUV-d-4UM

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#16
I agree. We audit them every year and once every 3 years the CB visit them the support process wherever they may be as long as they are partof the process and are not excluded.
 
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scorpio4sol

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#19
Hello Everyone,:bigwave:

We have multiple facilities :bonk:and are now affected for the IATF 4th edition rules.....can someone share the main changes or have a copy of the changes ...this is what I have from our 3rd party :

"The new rules now define a "client" as the entire entity, including all related manufacturing sites and remote supporting locations, applying for certification. This new rule eliminates "site" extensions.

Another rule change is consultants to a client cannot be physically present at the client's site during the audit or participate in the audit in any other way including videoconference, e-mail, phone, etc


There are several things in the planning process that the CB will require from the client prior to the onsite audit as input to the audit plan:
  • Documentation of the QMS including linkages and interfaces to any remote support functions and/or outsourced processes.
  • Customer and internal performance data
  • Customer satisfaction and complaint summary including a copy of the latest customer reports and/or scorecards
  • Identification of any customer special status condition
  • Notification about new customers
  • Results of internal audit and management review
All items except the first are to be "since the previous audit". For re-certification audits the information will be for the period of certification (3 years).

P.S. This quick highlight of key changes is not a complete list

Guys if you have a manual or presentation regarding the Gap analysis implementing 4th Ed.....I would really appreciate if you can help me out .:applause:
Regards Scorpio
 
LRE67

LRE67

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I have a question regarding the new rules.

First, a brief synopsis of our situation. We are a small company (125 employees). We have 2 plants (within walking distance of each other). We have one quality management system. Everyone follows the same policies and procedures. We have one management review that covers both plants and our internal audits include both plants. So I'm sure we qualify for the "corporate audit scheme".

My question is in regards to the employee headcount. Now that site extensions are no longer allowed, our plant #2 must be audited and registered separately. That means separate audit plans, separate audit reports and separate headcounts. My question is: Where do I place the following "heads"?

1. Maintenance personnel (who work at both plants).
2. Set-up personnel (who work at both plants).
3. Gaging personnel (who work at both plants).
4. Quality personnel (who work at both plants).
5. Supervisors (who work at both plants).
6. Quality Manager (who oversees both plants).
7. Director of Manufacturing (who oversees both plants).
8. Director of Operations (who oversees both plants).

Anyone of the above mentioned could be working out of either plant at any given time.
 
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