Sanitary "Green" Restrooms - Hand Driers and Waterless Urinals - Food Manufacturing

bobdoering

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Re: Sanitary "Green" Restrooms - Hand Driers and Waterless Urinals - Food Manufacturi

Those must be the "conforming" urinals, the ones that I have seen produced an unbelievable foul odor.
Maybe it ends up being a wash - the cost of the water not used is offset by more power required by the exhaust fan.

Kind of like the low flow flushes - less water per flush...just more flushes to accommodate the job.

Or thinner toilet paper - less paper per sheet...but more sheets used.

Ingenious!
 
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Re: Sanitary "Green" Restrooms - Hand Driers and Waterless Urinals - Food Manufacturi

We haven’t used waterless urinal. I guess it’s visibly clean but we can’t say it’s 100% free of germs or microorganism so i will not use the word sanitary. If it’s a measure to prevent contamination why, not try the potential of it. Other beneficial effects of waterless urinals vary on the types of materials such urinal is made of.
 
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Todd H

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I have talked to several people who have experiance with Waterless Urinals. In the beginning there was some excitement about them but the impression I am getting now is they are not worth the effort. The sludge and Uric crystal build up is a maintenance issue.
 

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I have talked to several people who have experience with Waterless Urinals. In the beginning there was some excitement about them but the impression I am getting now is they are not worth the effort. The sludge and Uric crystal build up is a maintenance issue.
Have you smelled them? Unbelievable!! :mg:

Stijloor.
 
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Todd H

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Have you smelled them? Unbelievable!! :mg:

Stijloor.
Technically, the ones I have seen use an "oil" in the Pee Trap to keep the sewer gasses out of the room. However, I have also heard that improper sanitation techniques can push the "oil" down the drain thus allowing the sewer gasses to escape.

I say "oil" because it seems to be a trade secret however the SG of the material has to be similar to oil. Hence the need to recharge the trap has a lot of expense too.
 

Stijloor

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Re: Sanitary "Green" Restrooms - Hand Driers and Waterless Urinals - Food Manufacturi

Technically, the ones I have seen use an "oil" in the Pee Trap to keep the sewer gasses out of the room. However, I have also heard that improper sanitation techniques can push the "oil" down the drain thus allowing the sewer gasses to escape.

I say "oil" because it seems to be a trade secret however the SG of the material has to be similar to oil. Hence the need to recharge the trap has a lot of expense too.
I don't think it's the sewer gasses, it's the pi$$ that smells....

Stijloor.
 
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Todd H

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I don't think it's the sewer gasses, it's the pi$$ that smells....

Stijloor.
Actually Urinal smell has always been a building maintenance issue and hence the reason you see so many innovative designs. That is the reason you see so many deodorizer "sweet tart" in urinals. I don't think you can use the sweet tarts in the cartridge type waterless urinals.
 

Stijloor

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Re: Sanitary "Green" Restrooms - Hand Driers and Waterless Urinals - Food Manufacturi

Actually Urinal smell has always been a building maintenance issue and hence the reason you see so many innovative designs. That is the reason you see so many deodorizer "sweet tart" in urinals. I don't think you can use the sweet tarts in the cartridge type waterless urinals.
I am all for green initiatives! :agree1: But if in an effort to save water the air in a restroom becomes seriously polluted, I'll go for the traditional fixtures...:cool:

Stijloor.
 
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Todd H

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I am all for green initiatives! :agree1: But if in an effort to save water the air in a restroom becomes seriously polluted, I'll go for the traditional fixtures...:cool:

Stijloor.
Many IAQ issues are the result of ill planned conservation efforts. :notme:
 

Wes Bucey

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Re: Sanitary "Green" Restrooms - Hand Driers and Waterless Urinals - Food Manufacturi

I am aware of two kinds of low or zero water use urinals:

  1. In Glacier National Park, several locations have "no water urinals" - lots of tourist use when I was there - no offensive odor. Here's a list of locations around the country (http://static.cbslocal.com/station/...nergy/08_0424_WhereToFindWaterlessUrinals.pdf) - perhaps you can call and inquire how they are working out.
  2. In several surrounding forest preserves and parks in my area, nearness to ecologically sensitive water courses prevents use of pit toilets or septic systems and sewer systems are economically unfeasible, so they are considering electric toilets, electricity provided by generators to provide toilets for workers and visitors. Here's one that was mentioned: http://www.incinolet.com/
 
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