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Sanity Check on ISO 9001 Pre-Assessment Findings

somashekar

somashekar

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When you have a dog and get an elephant chain to manage it., either the dog will die or will easily escape from the elephant chain. You will never get to manage it.
Do that much what you expect from your QMS in order to make you progress effectively, and manage your system.
Read the contents of the ISO9001:2008 well and loudly and understand the intent of what the standard says.
 
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cereo

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I have withheld the "best" findings, simply because I didn't want your opinions to be colored by these. But Randy has let the cat out of the bag now and everyone deserves a laugh...

First, please understand that we are a Warehouse. Trucks come in, pallets get unloaded. Pallets get loaded, trucks go out. I just want to make sure the complexity of our process is clear to all.

This Lead auditor requires:

A) control plans for our inspections--which consist of counting the boxes on the pallets and verifying part #s. BTW, our procedure already says we count/verify 100% of incoming loads

B) that our measuring tapes be calibrated...cuz if our load exceeds 20ft we will have to pay our vendor extra.

Yes, I am currently updating my resume.
 
Randy

Randy

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I just did a recert audit for the exact same type of operation...BIG, BIG, BIG...and EASY....EASY....EASY because everything is basically covered with minimum documentation and the folks have been doing it for years and years so they wrote their instructions according to what they actually do and not for nit/dim-witted auditors like me
 
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JaneB

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Randy, nit/dim witted auditor you most certainly ain't.
But that company absolutely had the right idea.
 
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JaneB

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cereo said:
This Lead auditor requires:

A) control plans for our inspections--which consist of counting the boxes on the pallets and verifying part #s. BTW, our procedure already says we count/verify 100% of incoming loads

B) that our measuring tapes be calibrated...cuz if our load exceeds 20ft we will have to pay our vendor extra.
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AAArggghhhhlll :bonk:

Moan :frust: :mad:

Oh fer hevvins' sakes... hasn't the man got any 'common sense' neurones swimming around in his brain??? Don't answer that - met the type, there's no debating with 'em (operates from the I'm right/you're wrong standpoint). And if you can't appeal - which you clearly can't - run a mile. Or fifty. You certainly have my empathy.

Very wise decision of yours, I think. In between the highly imortant task of calibrating them measuring tapes and creating control plans for your counting of course. :sarcasm:
 
Randy

Randy

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B) that our measuring tapes be calibrated...cuz if our load exceeds 20ft we will have to pay our vendor extra.
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This one can be touchy if a specific measurement is required by the vendor (shipper) then either tape measures be individually calibrated, or that they be verified for accuracy against something else that is calibrated (easiest way)

Not really that uncommon
 
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JaneB

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Randy said:
This one can be touchy if a specific measurement is required by the vendor (shipper) then either tape measures be individually calibrated, or that they be verified for accuracy against something else that is calibrated (easiest way)

Not really that uncommon
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OK, you have a point.

But IF not... and IF we only need to be accurate within, ooh, let's say a couple of inches (she says, bowing to the imperial measurement system still in use by you guys), would you still argue that tape measures need calibration?? I sure wouldn't.
 
Randy

Randy

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JaneB said:
OK, you have a point.

But IF not... and IF we only need to be accurate within, ooh, let's say a couple of inches (she says, bowing to the imperial measurement system still in use by you guys), would you still argue that tape measures need calibration?? I sure wouldn't.
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Yep, IF the measurement is specifically documented and required
 
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