Scoring Scale for Internal Audits - Please help finding the right terms

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JaneB

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Trying not to get into a document control discussion here, but in short proces descriptions define the why (the company's objectives), procedures the who does what, when.
As the audit question mostly is "Do you have a procudere for...." I have put them together, which is actualy incorrect, but served the example I hope.
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Yes, I understand it is off-topic. But after a few days have gone by and there's no further input from the original poster, I can't see a problem in continuing a discussion.

I thought about your response for quite a while, and it left me more confused. I certainly wouldn't describe a discussion of the difference between a process description and a procedure as about document control - which is a quite separate issue, to me in any case.

I think we have extremely different views here; I really cannot accept your definition of a process descriptions as something that would 'define the why (the company's objectives)'. A process description is ... a description of a process, or a model or a flowchart or diagram or map. But 'define the why'? I don't understand.
 
#44
Recently, I read an article published in Quality Digest by Mr. David C. Crosby "Mini Quality System Audit".

http://www.qualitydigest.com/inside/quality-insider-article/mini-quality-system-audit.html

He recommends "Quality Index Rater".

Any comments!!

Thanks,
Makrab...
If he 'grew up' auditing as he said he did, I'm not surprised he came up with such a system! People who started off thinking audits were done at a desk and have never had their eyes opened up to what modern day, effective auditors do probably would think a rating system is 'cool'.

Just looking at his questions and some of the comments with them lead me to suspect he still has a lot of learning to do about auditing processes for effectiveness and doing the audit effectively himself......

I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole........
 
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wweisea

#45
60-80 % the evidence is isolate, inconsistent, insufficient
below 60 % hard to find the evidence to prove the QMS.
 
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