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Sidney Vianna

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The short answer is no, since scrap material is NOT an intended product, and, by definition, outside of the scope of the IATF 16949 standard.
 

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"Have to"...agree with Sidney, no.

"Consider"... do you care how much scrap you have? Does a regulatory agency?
If you care about the data, what do you do to make sure the data is correct (enough)?
If you don't care the data is correct...why spend the time weighing?
Most bulk scales are 'good enough' in my experience...just consider whether yours is 'good enough' for the intended use (like reporting to the EPA, etc.)...and who might care about it more than your company does.
 
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We use it for scrap metal wire only, the NG rejects are physically counted by the machine. The scrap wire is typically only setup and remnant wire but can be several feet long especially over time. I think you both answered my question i appreciate it! do you recommend labeling the scale?
 

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Whatever works for you. Label, don't label, doesn't matter...that goes for both calibrated and uncalibrated stuff...Labeling isn't in the standard.
 

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Great answers earlier. You have to document the rationale of why calibration is not required.
Really? Where is that requirement?

I would accept "Probably ought to because it will make audits easier"...
 
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Sidney Vianna

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You have to document the rationale of why calibration is not required.
So, a scale used in the kitchen to measure ingredients would have to have some justification as well? What about the scale in the front office used to measure the weight of items being mailed?

Once determined that an item is outside the scope of a management system standard coverage, it is out of bounds.
 

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Really? Where is that requirement?

I would accept "Probably ought to because it will make audits easier"...
By "justification", I meant to document why calibration is not required and on the lines what Sidney mentioned that it is outside the scope of the management system. In the absence of any documentation, the reason behind no calibration required gets lost and gets part of tribal knowledge.
 
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