Second Party Audit - GM IATF 16949 CSR September 2017


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GM said said:
The organization (2nd party) must audit annually each qualifying supplier and maintain records of the audit. Qualifying supplier is defined by those suppliers determined to need second-party auditing per
clause Second-Party Audits.
The duration of these audits must conform to the full application of the Audit Day Requirements table of the current edition of Automotive Certification Scheme for IATF16949 Rules for Achieving and Maintaining IATF Recognition.
4-5 days x 26 suppliers. We are going towards full time job for internal (2nd party) auditors. Not bad. :lol:

John C. Abnet

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Good day Elsmar family.
In addition to the silliness that @Sebastian pointed out above back in 2017, the GM CSR also states... Second-party audits
Second-party auditors performing QMS audits must meet the requirements in clause 7.2.4 Second-Party Auditor Compliance in IATF 16949:2016 plus meet these additional requirements:
1. The organization must be IATF 16949:2016 certified and not on suspension.

My question is, who is The organization as defined in the CSR above? The organization from which the second party auditor is based?...or , the organization being audited?

What say all of you?

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