# Seeking Training Advice: Cycle Counting

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#### PAUL3

Can someone advise on Cycle Count training. Good Counting practices.
I am to train our Cycle Count team. They are fooling into day to day activities.

Thanks all
PAUL3

#### Marc

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Re: Cycle Count

I can't help out on the training issue, but I hope this thread garners some attention. I have seen so many companies with cycle counters because of a poor material control system that seems - well, silly. I may start a new thread specifically about cycle counting.

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#### Bill Ryan - 2007

Hi Paul and Welcome to the Cove

You're question seems a little vague to me. What is your purpose of counting cycles? Are you counting from a machine reliability aspect? If that's the case, any "dry cycling" would need to be counted. If you're counting from a "utilization" aspect, you would only count cycles when producing product and, I would assume, match "good" output vs. "bad". Both of those "aspects" can then be used to come up with capacity figures.

I hope I'm understanding your question and that this makes sense.

Bill

#### Al Rosen

Super Moderator
Bill Ryan said:
Hi Paul and Welcome to the Cove

You're question seems a little vague to me. What is your purpose of counting cycles? Are you counting from a machine reliability aspect? If that's the case, any "dry cycling" would need to be counted. If you're counting from a "utilization" aspect, you would only count cycles when producing product and, I would assume, match "good" output vs. "bad". Both of those "aspects" can then be used to come up with capacity figures.

I hope I'm understanding your question and that this makes sense.

Bill
Hi Bill:

I belive Paul is refering to counting parts and material in inventory not machine cycles. The parts are given priorities (usually a, b & c) based on \$ value. Parts and material are counted within assigned cycles (a, b, & c) during the year in order to provide a more accurate assesment of the inventory value thrughout the year and less surprises at the annual inventory valuation.

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#### PAUL3

Thanks to all,

Yes, I am referring to counting parts and material in inventory. We are an Injection Molding manufacturing company in California, our product (raw) is shipped to Mexico for packaging and returned to unite stated for distribution.

The situation is that the product to be Cycle Count (raw) is so closed to Production Floor stocked on shelves. Material leads move the requested material from the shelves to the working stations in production.
Most of the times the leads leave open boxes, mixed material and when one box is opened they preferred to work with a new one. I would like to implement a periodical Product Audi, but I not sure if this fools into Production responsibility of Cycle Count.

Material is allocated in minigaylods on pallets.
Thanks
Paul

#### Al Rosen

Super Moderator
PAUL3 said:
Thanks to all,

Most of the times the leads leave open boxes, mixed material and when one box is opened they preferred to work with a new one. I would like to implement a periodical Product Audi, but I not sure if this fools into Production responsibility of Cycle Count.
Seems you want to correct this before you cycle count. You already know what you're going to find.

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#### David Hartman

I agree with Al. You already know what the problem is. Address corrective action to the known problem, then perhaps as a way of determining effectiveness of the corrective action you could implement some form of cycle count process.

For training on cycle count processes you might take a look at the following link:

http://www.apics.org/default.htm

#### Douglas E. Purdy

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A PowerPoint Presentation / Training on Cycle Counting

PAUL3 said:
Can someone advise on Cycle Count training. Good Counting practices.
I am to train our Cycle Count team. They are fooling into day to day activities.

Thanks all
PAUL3

Here is a PowerPoint that you might be able to use in your effort to present concepts and choose a method for your situation.

Doug

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